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Richard Crofts · Dec 12th, 2006, 10:28 AM

Right.

I have a 52 plate MCS with a JCW brakes (including the rear pads)

Simple question but as yet seems unasked on hear (I did a search but it only turned up stuff on standard disc replacement)

Is there a replacement front disc for the JCW available, other than through the dealer network? Eg. Is there a slotted or even standard version of the JCW disc available from mintex or anyone? I ask this especially because the R56 MCS now uses the JCW brakes on the front as the standard sport brake...therefore is there a performance upgrade to this out yet, or even a cheaper way to get the disc than through JCW/BMW?

Having seen an R56 MCS the rear discs appear larger than on the current model (It may have been my imagination though) so if they are bigger is there anyone who knows if they can be fitted onto the rear of the current R53? Or if the whole rear brake assembly can be transplanted?

Ta

Richard

Richard Crofts · Dec 12th, 2006, 05:11 PM

Bump .... Someone must have definative answer for this. Especially now the R56 S uses the same discs and calipers as the former JCW kit on the R53.

Jaffa Racer · Dec 13th, 2006, 03:43 PM

Have a nose about mini.co.uk Im sure i have seen drilled or slotted disc's for the JCW

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Haggi · Dec 15th, 2006, 10:41 AM

ive not seen anything either as i thought this would have been done by some one try asking tarox as i know that they do discs and pads (they need the back plate) to order for not much more and this could be the best way to get some better slotted discs

roland2003 · Dec 15th, 2006, 10:54 AM

You can get BMW crossdrilled& grooved discs for R56 MCS turbo (and the old JCW kit) from your dealer .
Best Regards Roland GTT

Snowie · Dec 15th, 2006, 01:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original)

You can get BMW crossdrilled& grooved discs for R56 MCS turbo (and the old JCW kit) from your dealer .
Best Regards Roland GTT

Hi there
I have checked with both my local dealer and also Chris at Woodmans as I want to do this on my GP
The answers have been the same not available for GP / R53 only for R56 - this I do not understand but this I have to accept it for the moment.
I must say I am tempted to just go and buy a set and 'play' with them.

Roland
Do You know if there are braided hoses available for GP (JCW) brakes all round as I want to not only do a disk change but also braided hoses and dot 5.1 fluid. If so I could be paying you a visit to do the whole lot - assuming the price is right. PM
me with details etc.

Snowie (Alan)

T-bone S · Dec 15th, 2006, 03:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Snowie (original)

Roland
Do You know if there are braided hoses available for GP (JCW) brakes all round as I want to not only do a disk change but also braided hoses and dot 5.1 fluid. If so I could be paying you a visit to do the whole lot - assuming the price is right. PM
me with details etc.

Snowie (Alan)

I read that braided hoses don't make all that much difference in the MINI because they all so short - no appreciable advantage.

Don't take it as gospel - Just what I read.

Haggi · Dec 15th, 2006, 05:02 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by T-bone S (original)

I read that braided hoses don't make all that much difference in the MINI because they all so short - no appreciable advantage.

Don't take it as gospel - Just what I read.

i was told the opposit by a few folk all of whom are track their mcs's they said the hoses were the one of the vital bits as the rubber ones on the MINI are poor and expaned far to easily under the heat and force of heavy braking

Richard Crofts · Dec 18th, 2006, 05:05 PM

Braids work well on the MINI. Just remember to change them when you do a fluid change (2 years) as its very hard to tell if they are perishing ... they should last longer than 2 years but the chafing and the fact that you can't see the wear means it might be safest to spend a few bob every fluid change and do them then for safety.

R

wo53 rks · Dec 18th, 2006, 05:22 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Snowie (original)

Hi there
I have checked with both my local dealer and also Chris at Woodmans as I want to do this on my GP
The answers have been the same not available for GP / R53 only for R56 - this I do not understand but this I have to accept it for the moment.
I must say I am tempted to just go and buy a set and 'play' with them.

Snowie (Alan)

The slotted/grooved discs that are available from the dealers for the R56 will fit the R53 if you have the JCW brake kit as they are the standard brakes on the R56 cooper s,less the red paint and JCW logo

Fisher · Dec 19th, 2006, 08:25 PM

Are the disc on R56 and on the old JCW the same?

As I know have the R56 294mm disc and the JCW 292mm.

Bye

Dec 12th, 2006, 10:28 AM	#1
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 11:30 PM Posts: 3,174 Offline	JCW Brake Disc Replacements Right. I have a 52 plate MCS with a JCW brakes (including the rear pads) Simple question but as yet seems unasked on hear (I did a search but it only turned up stuff on standard disc replacement) Is there a replacement front disc for the JCW available, other than through the dealer network? Eg. Is there a slotted or even standard version of the JCW disc available from mintex or anyone? I ask this especially because the R56 MCS now uses the JCW brakes on the front as the standard sport brake...therefore is there a performance upgrade to this out yet, or even a cheaper way to get the disc than through JCW/BMW? Having seen an R56 MCS the rear discs appear larger than on the current model (It may have been my imagination though) so if they are bigger is there anyone who knows if they can be fitted onto the rear of the current R53? Or if the whole rear brake assembly can be transplanted? Ta Richard

Dec 15th, 2006, 10:41 AM	#4 (permalink)
Haggi formerly JWF Join Date: Dec 2004 Local Time: 11:30 PM Posts: 1,773 Offline	ive not seen anything either as i thought this would have been done by some one try asking tarox as i know that they do discs and pads (they need the back plate) to order for not much more and this could be the best way to get some better slotted discs Thinking MINI's Powered by DDM/M7

Dec 15th, 2006, 10:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
roland2003 MINI 2 Sponsor GT Tuning Join Date: Jan 2004 Local Time: 11:30 PM Posts: 2,738 Offline	You can get BMW crossdrilled& grooved discs for R56 MCS turbo (and the old JCW kit) from your dealer . Best Regards Roland GTT www.gttuning.com

Dec 15th, 2006, 03:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
T-bone S MINI2 Senior Join Date: May 2006 Location: Berkshire Local Time: 10:30 PM Posts: 571 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Snowie (original) Roland Do You know if there are braided hoses available for GP (JCW) brakes all round as I want to not only do a disk change but also braided hoses and dot 5.1 fluid. If so I could be paying you a visit to do the whole lot - assuming the price is right. PM me with details etc. Snowie (Alan) I read that braided hoses don't make all that much difference in the MINI because they all so short - no appreciable advantage. Don't take it as gospel - Just what I read. MY05 MINI COOPER S - DS/B - GTT OPTIMISED- THANKS FOR THE RIDE - ENTER THE R56 JCW

Dec 15th, 2006, 05:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
Haggi formerly JWF Join Date: Dec 2004 Local Time: 11:30 PM Posts: 1,773 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by T-bone S (original) I read that braided hoses don't make all that much difference in the MINI because they all so short - no appreciable advantage. Don't take it as gospel - Just what I read. i was told the opposit by a few folk all of whom are track their mcs's they said the hoses were the one of the vital bits as the rubber ones on the MINI are poor and expaned far to easily under the heat and force of heavy braking Thinking MINI's Powered by DDM/M7

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Dec 12th, 2006, 05:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 11:30 PM Posts: 3,174 Offline	Bump .... Someone must have definative answer for this. Especially now the R56 S uses the same discs and calipers as the former JCW kit on the R53.

Dec 13th, 2006, 03:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jaffa Racer MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2003 Local Time: 11:30 PM Posts: 1,274 Offline	Have a nose about mini.co.uk Im sure i have seen drilled or slotted disc's for the JCW MINI - John Cooper Works - Chassis Tuning

Dec 15th, 2006, 01:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
Snowie MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Modena IT /Camberley Local Time: 10:30 PM Posts: 1,673 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by roland2003 (original) You can get BMW crossdrilled& grooved discs for R56 MCS turbo (and the old JCW kit) from your dealer . Best Regards Roland GTT Hi there I have checked with both my local dealer and also Chris at Woodmans as I want to do this on my GP The answers have been the same not available for GP / R53 only for R56 - this I do not understand but this I have to accept it for the moment. I must say I am tempted to just go and buy a set and 'play' with them. Roland Do You know if there are braided hoses available for GP (JCW) brakes all round as I want to not only do a disk change but also braided hoses and dot 5.1 fluid. If so I could be paying you a visit to do the whole lot - assuming the price is right. PM me with details etc. Snowie (Alan)

Dec 18th, 2006, 05:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 11:30 PM Posts: 3,174 Offline	Braids work well on the MINI. Just remember to change them when you do a fluid change (2 years) as its very hard to tell if they are perishing ... they should last longer than 2 years but the chafing and the fact that you can't see the wear means it might be safest to spend a few bob every fluid change and do them then for safety. R

Dec 18th, 2006, 05:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
wo53 rks MINIMAD My Classifieds Join Date: May 2006 Location: south wales Local Time: 10:30 PM Posts: 253 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Snowie (original) Hi there I have checked with both my local dealer and also Chris at Woodmans as I want to do this on my GP The answers have been the same not available for GP / R53 only for R56 - this I do not understand but this I have to accept it for the moment. I must say I am tempted to just go and buy a set and 'play' with them. Snowie (Alan) The slotted/grooved discs that are available from the dealers for the R56 will fit the R53 if you have the JCW brake kit as they are the standard brakes on the R56 cooper s,less the red paint and JCW logo Taking care of business

Dec 19th, 2006, 08:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
Fisher MINI2 Regular Join Date: Dec 2004 Local Time: 12:30 AM Posts: 237 Offline	Are the disc on R56 and on the old JCW the same? As I know have the R56 294mm disc and the JCW 292mm. Bye

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