[jamesbeaumont]

Hi guys, I was was wondering if anyone with white powder coated alloys knows of an effective way of removing tar? i have lots of little black dots, especially in the corners of the alloys that wont budge even with tar remover. On the occasion a bit will come loose when aggitated but scratches the surface I had a special brush for cleaning alloys and this has caused lots of scratches too it went in the bin, but i have a feeling im going to be told of by lots of people for using it! I guess i might just have to get them refurbished!

James.

[berty]

why don't you try claying them using meguiar clay bar. This is supposed to remove contaminents on paint without scratching.

[caesar]

Had a similar problem with my 17" Crown Spoke Alloys, thought they were scratched, but it was tar. Bought some Turtle Wax bug/tar wipes and the marks came off with gentle rubbing.

Might be OK with your wheels?

[ScottyBoy]

If there really bad.

1, get a decent dedicated wheel cleaner, give a wheel at a time a good soak leave for a minute, then agigtate with a brush or cloth. Rinse.
2,use a clay bar as mentioned, spray the lubricant on the wheel and then use the clay as described n the wheels.
3 if needed use the wheel cleaner again.

That should bring them up good as new and save you £50 per wheel on a refurb.

To keep them looking good, wash them regulary and give them a coat of wax which will make them easier to wash each time.

Scott

[FergusM]

Mate has been used WD40 to remove tar spots... might be worth a try ?

[caesar]

To remove tar you need to apply a solvent rather than by abrasion, otherwise you will damage the surface you are cleaning.

A claybar used in conjunction with polish is for the removal of contaminants on the paintwork i.e. dead insects and road film. It's not for tar removal !!!

To successfully remove tar you need to use a suitable solvent designed for this purpose, especially with alloy wheels otherwise you will damage the lacquer surface.

[ScottyBoy]

Quote: Originally Posted by caesar (original)

To remove tar you need to apply a solvent rather than by abrasion, otherwise you will damage the surface you are cleaning.

A claybar used in conjunction with polish is for the removal of contaminants on the paintwork i.e. dead insects and road film. It's not for tar removal !!!

To successfully remove tar you need to use a suitable solvent designed for this purpose, especially with alloy wheels otherwise you will damage the lacquer surface.

I agree with you in saying a tar remover will do the job but if you are saying that claying you wheels will damage them and will not do the job then you are wrong.......

What are wheels, white wheels covered in...? Paint.... what is tar? A bonded contaminent, Whats a clay bar designed for?....... Removing Bonded contaminents. Doing this WILL NOT Damage the laquer surface and is OK to use on wheels.

A clay bar comes in different grades of Aggressiveness, Meguiars is a low down on the chart of Aggressivenes.

A clay bar can be used on paintwork, wheels, glass and it will make them feel smooth as glass when done, tar does not just apear on wheels this apears on paintwork also, and in my detailing routine i dont use a tar remover as the Clay bar does the job, i.e remove Bonded contaminents which is what tar is.

Road film and dead insects are Fresh contaminents and these will be rid of with a good wash technique. Bonded contaminents are Industrial fallout, Tree sap, Baked on brake dust, and these require a clay bar to remove them.

So, Claying will not Damage your wheels,after this i do recommend giving them a polish and a wax to protect them as a clay bar removes any type of protection there is on the wheel or paintwork.

Hope that helps

Scott

[ScottyBoy]

Quote: Originally Posted by caesar (original)

A claybar used in conjunction with polish.

Im sorry to say wrong again, lol.

A clay bar and polish are not used in conjunction, they are used after one another,

Clay bar = Remove bonded contaminients

Polish = Abrade the surface flat to remove imperfections such as swirls, marrying and scratches.

A clay bar and lubricant are used in conjunction

[caesar]

Beg to differ, a Clay Bar is used in conjunction with a polish....otherwise it will not move smoothly over the surface. I use Meguiars products and that's what they recommend and it works OK.

[rec]

caesar, you're wrong i'm afraid

Meg's dont recommend claying before every polish - if you do that you're seriously misguided i'm afraid.

both myself and Scotty are kinda beyond Meg's products now :P

[rec]

Quote: Originally Posted by rec (original)

caesar, you're wrong i'm afraid

Meg's dont recommend claying before every polish - if you do that you're seriously misguided i'm afraid.

both myself and Scotty are kinda beyond Meg's products now :P

just read what you put... you dont use polish to make the claybar glide over the paintwork what you're thinking of is Meg's Quik Detailer, which is by no means a polish.

[ScottyBoy]

Quote: Originally Posted by caesar (original)

Beg to differ, a Clay Bar is used in conjunction with a polish....otherwise it will not move smoothly over the surface. I use Meguiars products and that's what they recommend and it works OK.

How do you work that out?

A Meguiars clay bar is suppiled with a lubricant not a polish at all.

I doubt at all and i disagree 100% that they do not recomment that.

Like i said Polish is an abrasive which flattens the surface to remove surface imperfections.

A clay bar removes bonded contaminents to "Prepare" the surface for polishing, glazing, sealing and finally waxing!

I doubt in my 12hour details i do to mine and other peoples cars im going wrong, if i am then i need to no were.

[ScottyBoy]

Quote: Originally Posted by rec (original)

caesar, you're wrong i'm afraid

Meg's dont recommend claying before every polish - if you do that you're seriously misguided i'm afraid.

both myself and Scotty are kinda beyond Meg's products now :P

Im confused now, caeser are you saying that you apply polish to the surface so that clay moves smoothly and correctly, or like rec says use a clay bar everytime you polish

Well TBH your wrong in either case.

[Mistercurly]

Quote: Originally Posted by caesar (original)

Beg to differ, a Clay Bar is used in conjunction with a polish....otherwise it will not move smoothly over the surface. I use Meguiars products and that's what they recommend and it works OK.

Clay bar with lubricant, then polish.

[jamesbeaumont]

Wow thanks guys, I went to Halfrauds and asked the guy what he suggested, he said white polish and a chapstick...honestly it doesnt work! The tar is slowly coming off with tar and bug remover but are you saying all I need is a clay bar to treat the tar and scratches?

[ScottyBoy]

Have you tried a dedicated wheel cleaner yet? i use this stuff and its great

Meguiar's Hot Rims All Wheel Cleaner

if this doesnt work use a clay bar afterwards.

Scott

[rec]

Quote: Originally Posted by ScottyBoy230 (original)

Im confused now, caeser are you saying that you apply polish to the surface so that clay moves smoothly and correctly, or like rec says use a clay bar everytime you polish

Well TBH your wrong in either case.

i never said you use a claybar every time you polish, that's stupid.
i read caesar's post as if he was implying that the polish was the lubricant for the clay - hence my post.

[ScottyBoy]

Quote: Originally Posted by rec (original)

i never said you use a claybar every time you polish, that's stupid.
i read caesar's post as if he was implying that the polish was the lubricant for the clay - hence my post.

I didnt mean thats what you meant lol, i understand what i meant anyway lol

[rec]

aaah, i just re-read what you said... sorry mate i thought you were implying that i was implying that you clay always before polish.

man, i really should screw my damn head on sometimes. what a prune i am :P

but yeah, we're both in agreement that caesar is wrong !

[ScottyBoy]

Quote: Originally Posted by rec (original)

aaah, i just re-read what you said... sorry mate i thought you were implying that i was implying that you clay always before polish.

man, i really should screw my damn head on sometimes. what a prune i am :P

but yeah, we're both in agreement that caesar is wrong !

lol Thats it, you thought i was implying that you were implying that i said you were implying that meguiars imply that you use a polish as a lubricant lol

Dont take this to heart caeser, i just had to set things straight as these forums are open to anyone and the info needs to be correct.

Scotty