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lucachiarelli · Sep 20th, 2007, 03:02 PM

I have purchased a porsche bbk and i have 18s at the moment which will clear the porsche bbk with a 5mm spacer. I am thinking of getting the team dynamics pro race 1.2 in 17 inch. et38. Will the porsche bbk fit the smaller wheels?
Any experience or knowledge of this setup?

Cooooooperslad · Sep 21st, 2007, 02:07 PM

17" is fine,

Bhozar runs OZ superleggeras ET37 and he had to run spacers on the front... but... it does come down to design of the spoke.

Richard Crofts · Sep 21st, 2007, 02:26 PM

Even with et38 you'll probably need 5mm.

I am gonna fit either a porshe or Ate BBK as soon as the cash arrives ... I have et45s at mo and will have a 16mm spacer! Thats equivilant of ET29-30 whereas et38 with 5mm will be equivilant to et33!

Most manufacturers will just add a little extra to the back of the hub (machine a little less off) to reach the bigger offsets such as 38. So this essencially does the same as fitting a spacer to a smaller offset. Not sure if all do this but it could be your best option would be to forget the spacer and just fit a ET30 wheel? Have a word with roland if I were you.

lucachiarelli · Sep 21st, 2007, 06:23 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Richard Crofts (original)

Even with et38 you'll probably need 5mm.

I am gonna fit either a porshe or Ate BBK as soon as the cash arrives ... I have et45s at mo and will have a 16mm spacer! Thats equivilant of ET29-30 whereas et38 with 5mm will be equivilant to et33!

Most manufacturers will just add a little extra to the back of the hub (machine a little less off) to reach the bigger offsets such as 38. So this essencially does the same as fitting a spacer to a smaller offset. Not sure if all do this but it could be your best option would be to forget the spacer and just fit a ET30 wheel? Have a word with roland if I were you.

Thanks. I spoke to roland and hes not sure. I should have done the research before i bought the bbk. Might sell the brakes as i need to get the m14 wheel bolts aswell because my car is june 06.

Cooooooperslad · Sep 21st, 2007, 07:15 PM

Luca if you do decide to sell the brakes pm me first please :P

roland2003 · Sep 22nd, 2007, 07:52 AM

Hi Guys, there are two areas to consider 1) Clearance inside the rim on the 17" wheels. -Most 17" 'non run flat rims ' are fine.
2) Clearance on the back of the spokes to the front face of the caliper. ET37 is your best bet for clearance and highest cornering speed. Most applications will still need a spacer ...usually 5 or 6mm. The occassional wheel design will need 15mm. If you have ET 45-48 you will usually need 15 or possibly 20mm spacers. Either way the wheels sit in the same place .
Best Regards Roland GTT

lucachiarelli · Sep 24th, 2007, 12:25 PM

Going to stick with the 18" wheels for the bbk. The guy who i got the bbk from gave me 12mm spacers and longer bolts. He also gave me the pads that roland supplied him and some brand new pads from porsche to go with the porsche calipers. He said he found the new pads less squeeky. Fitting the kit on wednesday. Im sure there will be a huge difference in stopping power as i have standard mcs brakes on at the moment. Cant wait

Richard Crofts · Sep 24th, 2007, 12:58 PM

It does stop faster but also the main benifit is that you will basically never get brake fade from heat build-up.

Bhozar · Sep 24th, 2007, 01:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by lucachiarelli (original)

Going to stick with the 18" wheels for the bbk. The guy who i got the bbk from gave me 12mm spacers and longer bolts. He also gave me the pads that roland supplied him and some brand new pads from porsche to go with the porsche calipers. He said he found the new pads less squeeky. Fitting the kit on wednesday. Im sure there will be a huge difference in stopping power as i have standard mcs brakes on at the moment. Cant wait

I hope those 12mm spacers arent flat spacers, otherwise it could be dangerous. Do a search on here for spacer sizes.

lucachiarelli · Sep 24th, 2007, 01:48 PM

I have no idea what they are?
Here is a picture of them.

Are these ok?

supercoopers · Sep 24th, 2007, 03:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by lucachiarelli (original)

I have no idea what they are?
Here is a picture of them.

Are these ok?

Yep, those look good because they are spigoted (that 'lip' you see inserts into the hub assembly and spreads the load a bit, whereas with just a flat bit of metal there wouldn't be the same support as you can imagine).

They look to be either Eibach or H&R as well, which only make quality stuff

Cheers,

Henry

lucachiarelli · Sep 24th, 2007, 04:20 PM

Thanks supercoopers. was getting worried i would have to spend even more money. They are eibach spacers

Sep 20th, 2007, 03:02 PM	#1
lucachiarelli Banned My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: darwen Local Time: 08:07 AM Posts: 516 Offline	Porsche bbk fit? I have purchased a porsche bbk and i have 18s at the moment which will clear the porsche bbk with a 5mm spacer. I am thinking of getting the team dynamics pro race 1.2 in 17 inch. et38. Will the porsche bbk fit the smaller wheels? Any experience or knowledge of this setup?

Sep 21st, 2007, 02:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cooooooperslad MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2007 Local Time: 08:07 AM Posts: 496 Offline	17" is fine, Bhozar runs OZ superleggeras ET37 and he had to run spacers on the front... but... it does come down to design of the spoke. Follower of 1320autos + GTTuning

Sep 21st, 2007, 07:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
Cooooooperslad MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: Apr 2007 Local Time: 08:07 AM Posts: 496 Offline	Luca if you do decide to sell the brakes pm me first please :P Follower of 1320autos + GTTuning

Sep 22nd, 2007, 07:52 AM	#6 (permalink)
roland2003 MINI 2 Sponsor GT Tuning Join Date: Jan 2004 Local Time: 08:07 AM Posts: 2,731 Online	Hi Guys, there are two areas to consider 1) Clearance inside the rim on the 17" wheels. -Most 17" 'non run flat rims ' are fine. 2) Clearance on the back of the spokes to the front face of the caliper. ET37 is your best bet for clearance and highest cornering speed. Most applications will still need a spacer ...usually 5 or 6mm. The occassional wheel design will need 15mm. If you have ET 45-48 you will usually need 15 or possibly 20mm spacers. Either way the wheels sit in the same place . Best Regards Roland GTT www.gttuning.com

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Sep 21st, 2007, 02:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 08:07 AM Posts: 2,993 Offline	Even with et38 you'll probably need 5mm. I am gonna fit either a porshe or Ate BBK as soon as the cash arrives ... I have et45s at mo and will have a 16mm spacer! Thats equivilant of ET29-30 whereas et38 with 5mm will be equivilant to et33! Most manufacturers will just add a little extra to the back of the hub (machine a little less off) to reach the bigger offsets such as 38. So this essencially does the same as fitting a spacer to a smaller offset. Not sure if all do this but it could be your best option would be to forget the spacer and just fit a ET30 wheel? Have a word with roland if I were you.

Sep 21st, 2007, 06:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
lucachiarelli Banned My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: darwen Local Time: 08:07 AM Posts: 516 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Richard Crofts (original) Even with et38 you'll probably need 5mm. I am gonna fit either a porshe or Ate BBK as soon as the cash arrives ... I have et45s at mo and will have a 16mm spacer! Thats equivilant of ET29-30 whereas et38 with 5mm will be equivilant to et33! Most manufacturers will just add a little extra to the back of the hub (machine a little less off) to reach the bigger offsets such as 38. So this essencially does the same as fitting a spacer to a smaller offset. Not sure if all do this but it could be your best option would be to forget the spacer and just fit a ET30 wheel? Have a word with roland if I were you. Thanks. I spoke to roland and hes not sure. I should have done the research before i bought the bbk. Might sell the brakes as i need to get the m14 wheel bolts aswell because my car is june 06.

Sep 24th, 2007, 12:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
lucachiarelli Banned My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: darwen Local Time: 08:07 AM Posts: 516 Offline	Going to stick with the 18" wheels for the bbk. The guy who i got the bbk from gave me 12mm spacers and longer bolts. He also gave me the pads that roland supplied him and some brand new pads from porsche to go with the porsche calipers. He said he found the new pads less squeeky. Fitting the kit on wednesday. Im sure there will be a huge difference in stopping power as i have standard mcs brakes on at the moment. Cant wait

Sep 24th, 2007, 12:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
Richard Crofts THE STICK Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Worcestershire WR15 Local Time: 08:07 AM Posts: 2,993 Offline	It does stop faster but also the main benifit is that you will basically never get brake fade from heat build-up.

Sep 24th, 2007, 01:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bhozar Overly excited!! My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Worcestershire Local Time: 08:07 AM Posts: 1,172 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by lucachiarelli (original) Going to stick with the 18" wheels for the bbk. The guy who i got the bbk from gave me 12mm spacers and longer bolts. He also gave me the pads that roland supplied him and some brand new pads from porsche to go with the porsche calipers. He said he found the new pads less squeeky. Fitting the kit on wednesday. Im sure there will be a huge difference in stopping power as i have standard mcs brakes on at the moment. Cant wait I hope those 12mm spacers arent flat spacers, otherwise it could be dangerous. Do a search on here for spacer sizes.

Sep 24th, 2007, 03:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
supercoopers MINI2 Senior My Classifieds Join Date: May 2003 Local Time: 08:07 AM Posts: 648 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by lucachiarelli (original) I have no idea what they are? Here is a picture of them. Are these ok? Yep, those look good because they are spigoted (that 'lip' you see inserts into the hub assembly and spreads the load a bit, whereas with just a flat bit of metal there wouldn't be the same support as you can imagine). They look to be either Eibach or H&R as well, which only make quality stuff Cheers, Henry

Sep 24th, 2007, 04:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
lucachiarelli Banned My Classifieds Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: darwen Local Time: 08:07 AM Posts: 516 Offline	Thanks supercoopers. was getting worried i would have to spend even more money. They are eibach spacers

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