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R99 · Jan 4th, 2008, 09:20 AM

I have 17" alloys with Dunlop SP Sport 9000 DSST, I have since had the two fronts replaced with the same tyre. My brother also has 17" wheels on his MINI and up until now has had the same tires.

His front two are (or were) illegal and today are being replaced. However this time the two fronts are going to be replaced with Pirelli Eufori@ tyres. This is on the recommendation by the tyre fitter that these are a better tyre, and combined with the fact that the Dunlops would have to be ordered in, and obviously with the tyres being illegal, he doesn't want to risk the 6 points two bald tyres would carry.

I'm just curious as to whether indeed the Pirelli is a better all round tyre?

Obviously I know in an ideal world the MINI wouldn't be running runflats at all, but at this stage he doesn't want to also replace the rears, which still have 5 or 6 mm tread.

Regards,

James.

DaFlake · Jan 4th, 2008, 09:21 AM

Having used both, I preferred the Pirelli over the Dunlop. The dunlops are noisy and tramelling is horrendous.

Windy Miller · Jan 4th, 2008, 09:33 AM

Had both and much prefered the Dunlops, thought the Pirelli's were scary, bordering dangerous in the wet.

DaFlake · Jan 4th, 2008, 09:38 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Windy Miller (original)

Had both and much prefered the Dunlops, thought the Pirelli's were scary, bordering dangerous in the wet.

Odd, found it just the opposite.

Windy Miller · Jan 4th, 2008, 09:48 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original)

Odd, found it just the opposite.

Had Dunlops on my first MCS, then the second came with Pirelli's from the factory.

Changed them long before they were due cause i disliked them so much.

DaFlake · Jan 4th, 2008, 09:52 AM

I was always slipping Dunlops in wet. Pirelli held much better but neither are really all that great.

R99 · Jan 4th, 2008, 11:26 AM

Cheers for the replies, interesting to see two different opinions from people who have owned both.

I was under the impression the Dunlop was the better all rounder, and as far as I know it also carries a higher price tag (although I am aware that doesn't necessarily mean its any better!) When he gets it back later I'm sure he can make his own mind up.

It's turned out to be an expensive day for him because his brake pads were also found to be shot (54 plate car) and the alignment was out. The latter we knew about as it is what has caused the excessive wear of the tyres. BMW wanted £180 for a KDS, but the tyre outlet reckons they can do the same job for less.

All in I think its costing him £340 for tyres, pads and alignment. Is that fair?

James.

DaFlake · Jan 4th, 2008, 11:36 AM

Wonder if these might be a cheaper better solution for you guys...

I started to buy these for my summers but Tire Rack was out so I went with the non-runflat equivalent. I haven't used them yet.

Kumho ECSTA SPT XRP at The Tire Rack.

sef · Jan 4th, 2008, 11:39 AM

I have to agree with Windy... I found Dunlops to be far superior to the Pirellis... I've had problems with Pirellis in the wet... I found the Dunlop to be much safer. Also found that the Pirellis wear out a lot quicker too...

DaFlake · Jan 4th, 2008, 11:46 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by sef (original)

I have to agree with Windy... I found Dunlops to be far superior to the Pirellis... I've had problems with Pirellis in the wet... I found the Dunlop to be much safer. Also found that the Pirellis wear out a lot quicker too...

Once again, exact opposite for me. I wonder if a lot of this has to do with the grade of asphalt that we are driving on. Germany is very good at keeping their roads in mint condition.

alski · Jan 4th, 2008, 12:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original)

Once again, exact opposite for me. I wonder if a lot of this has to do with the grade of asphalt that we are driving on. Germany is very good at keeping their roads in mint condition.

got 18k out of my pirelli

, seems good enough, although rotated at 10k

, never tried dunlops went straight to "normal " tyres,

Brayster · Jan 4th, 2008, 12:41 PM

Hi guys,

My feelings are that I thought that my Pirrellis were dangerous, spent all summer driving a company cooper s with Dunlops on - the day i picked up my own cooper s I went round the a corner I did everyday at the same speed and nearly put the thing in a tree and that was in the dry.

Granted i was zipping along but the dunlops were/are loads better. I think the Pirrellis side wall is very different tothe dunlops. I'm no expert though

Andy

sef · Jan 4th, 2008, 02:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original)

Once again, exact opposite for me. I wonder if a lot of this has to do with the grade of asphalt that we are driving on. Germany is very good at keeping their roads in mint condition.

That's true... The roads in the UK are just rubbish...

R99 · Jan 4th, 2008, 03:48 PM

Thank you for the further input folks. Interesting reading.

Well the wheel alignment couldn't be done in the end as the track rod ends have seized and split. So its off down to Woodman's for it all to be sorted under warranty, they are doing the KDS too.

Feel a bit sorry for my bro as hes all ready had to have the steering column and suspension wishbones replaced. Luckily it was all under warranty mind.

James.

DaFlake · Jan 4th, 2008, 04:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by sef (original)

That's true... The roads in the UK are just rubbish...

I've never driven on them, but I can compare Germany to USA. USA roads are rubbish as well.

sef · Jan 4th, 2008, 04:49 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original)

I've never driven on them, but I can compare Germany to USA. USA roads are rubbish as well.

That's the thing here... The tarmac used on most roads here is ok when dry... If it rains they become slippery and dangerous... If we have 1CM of snow the whole country grinds to a halt... nothing moves...

Hyper Active · Jan 4th, 2008, 07:02 PM

I've tried them both, and i agree with the others that the Dunlops were much better.

MINI-Morgan · Jan 4th, 2008, 07:45 PM

Dunlops all the way! Pirelli's are total rubbish and really bad in the wet.

Mike Edwards · Jan 5th, 2008, 01:19 PM

Dunlops - my car has always had them, but a friend's had Pirelli...

The SP01 runflats give a much better ride than the 9000 DSST btw

FunFindus · Jan 5th, 2008, 03:32 PM

Ive gone from Dunlops to all 4 new Pirelli Eufori runflats. I can say without hesitation the Pirellis are much better than the Dunlops.

The Pirellis give a softer ride and I think are better in wet conditions. The Dunlops would lose grip very easily on a roundabout of you tried to have some fun.

I got mine done at kwik fit last week on a buy 3 get 4 tyres offer for £400 all in.

I tried getting non-runflats but all the garages I contacted would not do it.

Jan 4th, 2008, 09:20 AM	#1
R99 MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Lakes Local Time: 08:13 AM Posts: 1,433 Offline	Curious: Dunlop or Pirelli runflats, which are best? I have 17" alloys with Dunlop SP Sport 9000 DSST, I have since had the two fronts replaced with the same tyre. My brother also has 17" wheels on his MINI and up until now has had the same tires. His front two are (or were) illegal and today are being replaced. However this time the two fronts are going to be replaced with Pirelli Eufori@ tyres. This is on the recommendation by the tyre fitter that these are a better tyre, and combined with the fact that the Dunlops would have to be ordered in, and obviously with the tyres being illegal, he doesn't want to risk the 6 points two bald tyres would carry. I'm just curious as to whether indeed the Pirelli is a better all round tyre? Obviously I know in an ideal world the MINI wouldn't be running runflats at all, but at this stage he doesn't want to also replace the rears, which still have 5 or 6 mm tread. Regards, James. ::.. 2006 MINI ONE D now with added Aero Kit ..:: --- Lancashire MINI Register ---

Jan 4th, 2008, 09:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
DaFlake I miss my MINI Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 03:13 AM Posts: 10,417 Offline	Having used both, I preferred the Pirelli over the Dunlop. The dunlops are noisy and tramelling is horrendous. Global Moderator

Jan 4th, 2008, 09:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
DaFlake I miss my MINI Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 03:13 AM Posts: 10,417 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Windy Miller (original) Had both and much prefered the Dunlops, thought the Pirelli's were scary, bordering dangerous in the wet. Odd, found it just the opposite. Global Moderator

Jan 4th, 2008, 09:52 AM	#6 (permalink)
DaFlake I miss my MINI Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 03:13 AM Posts: 10,417 Offline	I was always slipping Dunlops in wet. Pirelli held much better but neither are really all that great. Global Moderator

Jan 4th, 2008, 11:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
R99 MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Lakes Local Time: 08:13 AM Posts: 1,433 Offline	Cheers for the replies, interesting to see two different opinions from people who have owned both. I was under the impression the Dunlop was the better all rounder, and as far as I know it also carries a higher price tag (although I am aware that doesn't necessarily mean its any better!) When he gets it back later I'm sure he can make his own mind up. It's turned out to be an expensive day for him because his brake pads were also found to be shot (54 plate car) and the alignment was out. The latter we knew about as it is what has caused the excessive wear of the tyres. BMW wanted £180 for a KDS, but the tyre outlet reckons they can do the same job for less. All in I think its costing him £340 for tyres, pads and alignment. Is that fair? James. ::.. 2006 MINI ONE D now with added Aero Kit ..:: --- Lancashire MINI Register ---

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Jan 4th, 2008, 09:33 AM	#3 (permalink)
Windy Miller Feelin the force Join Date: May 2004 Location: Proud Preston Local Time: 08:13 AM Posts: 668 Offline	Had both and much prefered the Dunlops, thought the Pirelli's were scary, bordering dangerous in the wet.

Jan 4th, 2008, 09:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
Windy Miller Feelin the force Join Date: May 2004 Location: Proud Preston Local Time: 08:13 AM Posts: 668 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original) Odd, found it just the opposite. Had Dunlops on my first MCS, then the second came with Pirelli's from the factory. Changed them long before they were due cause i disliked them so much.

Jan 4th, 2008, 11:36 AM	#8 (permalink)
DaFlake I miss my MINI Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 03:13 AM Posts: 10,417 Offline	Wonder if these might be a cheaper better solution for you guys... I started to buy these for my summers but Tire Rack was out so I went with the non-runflat equivalent. I haven't used them yet. Kumho ECSTA SPT XRP at The Tire Rack. Global Moderator

Jan 4th, 2008, 11:39 AM	#9 (permalink)
sef Affinity to 1320 Autos My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: A dark Corner Local Time: 08:13 AM Posts: 674 Offline	I have to agree with Windy... I found Dunlops to be far superior to the Pirellis... I've had problems with Pirellis in the wet... I found the Dunlop to be much safer. Also found that the Pirellis wear out a lot quicker too... www.miniclubuk.com

Jan 4th, 2008, 11:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
DaFlake I miss my MINI Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 03:13 AM Posts: 10,417 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by sef (original) I have to agree with Windy... I found Dunlops to be far superior to the Pirellis... I've had problems with Pirellis in the wet... I found the Dunlop to be much safer. Also found that the Pirellis wear out a lot quicker too... Once again, exact opposite for me. I wonder if a lot of this has to do with the grade of asphalt that we are driving on. Germany is very good at keeping their roads in mint condition. Global Moderator

Jan 4th, 2008, 12:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
alski ever been on a dyno Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: banbury Local Time: 08:13 AM Posts: 914 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original) Once again, exact opposite for me. I wonder if a lot of this has to do with the grade of asphalt that we are driving on. Germany is very good at keeping their roads in mint condition. got 18k out of my pirelli , seems good enough, although rotated at 10k , never tried dunlops went straight to "normal " tyres, carefree

Jan 4th, 2008, 12:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
Brayster MINI2 Newbie My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Nottingham Local Time: 08:13 AM Posts: 24 Offline	Pirrellis for me Hi guys, My feelings are that I thought that my Pirrellis were dangerous, spent all summer driving a company cooper s with Dunlops on - the day i picked up my own cooper s I went round the a corner I did everyday at the same speed and nearly put the thing in a tree and that was in the dry. Granted i was zipping along but the dunlops were/are loads better. I think the Pirrellis side wall is very different tothe dunlops. I'm no expert though Andy

Jan 4th, 2008, 02:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
sef Affinity to 1320 Autos My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: A dark Corner Local Time: 08:13 AM Posts: 674 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original) Once again, exact opposite for me. I wonder if a lot of this has to do with the grade of asphalt that we are driving on. Germany is very good at keeping their roads in mint condition. That's true... The roads in the UK are just rubbish... www.miniclubuk.com

Jan 4th, 2008, 03:48 PM	#14 (permalink)
R99 MINI2 Master Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Lakes Local Time: 08:13 AM Posts: 1,433 Offline	Thank you for the further input folks. Interesting reading. Well the wheel alignment couldn't be done in the end as the track rod ends have seized and split. So its off down to Woodman's for it all to be sorted under warranty, they are doing the KDS too. Feel a bit sorry for my bro as hes all ready had to have the steering column and suspension wishbones replaced. Luckily it was all under warranty mind. James. ::.. 2006 MINI ONE D now with added Aero Kit ..:: --- Lancashire MINI Register ---

Jan 4th, 2008, 04:10 PM	#15 (permalink)
DaFlake I miss my MINI Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hanging on The Cape! Local Time: 03:13 AM Posts: 10,417 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by sef (original) That's true... The roads in the UK are just rubbish... I've never driven on them, but I can compare Germany to USA. USA roads are rubbish as well. Global Moderator

Jan 4th, 2008, 04:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
sef Affinity to 1320 Autos My Classifieds Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: A dark Corner Local Time: 08:13 AM Posts: 674 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by DaFlake (original) I've never driven on them, but I can compare Germany to USA. USA roads are rubbish as well. That's the thing here... The tarmac used on most roads here is ok when dry... If it rains they become slippery and dangerous... If we have 1CM of snow the whole country grinds to a halt... nothing moves... www.miniclubuk.com

Jan 4th, 2008, 07:02 PM	#17 (permalink)
Hyper Active MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Watford, Herts. UK Local Time: 08:13 AM Posts: 2,178 Offline	I've tried them both, and i agree with the others that the Dunlops were much better.

Jan 4th, 2008, 07:45 PM	#18 (permalink)
MINI-Morgan MINI Obsessed... My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Southampton, Hants Local Time: 08:13 AM Posts: 4,610 Offline	Dunlops all the way! Pirelli's are total rubbish and really bad in the wet. One Man, One Project......find out what happens next at MINIProject.co.uk For MINIs in the south it can only be South Coast New MINI Club

Jan 5th, 2008, 01:19 PM	#19 (permalink)
Mike Edwards MINI2 Master My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Herefordshire Local Time: 08:13 AM Posts: 760 Offline	Dunlops - my car has always had them, but a friend's had Pirelli... The SP01 runflats give a much better ride than the 9000 DSST btw

Jan 5th, 2008, 03:32 PM	#20 (permalink)
FunFindus MINI2 Regular Join Date: May 2007 Local Time: 08:13 AM Posts: 96 Offline	Ive gone from Dunlops to all 4 new Pirelli Eufori runflats. I can say without hesitation the Pirellis are much better than the Dunlops. The Pirellis give a softer ride and I think are better in wet conditions. The Dunlops would lose grip very easily on a roundabout of you tried to have some fun. I got mine done at kwik fit last week on a buy 3 get 4 tyres offer for £400 all in. I tried getting non-runflats but all the garages I contacted would not do it.

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