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FlintyGP · Mar 26th, 2008, 01:28 PM

Any GP owners out there running road legal 'track' tyres?

I'm looking to change from runflats and fancy a set of Yoko Parada Spec 2, A048's, or Toyo R888's for summer & occasional track use.

If moving up a width from standard 205's, should i go for:
215/40/18
225/40/18
215/35/18 or
225/35/18

I'm not worried about Road Noise, just wish to get more grip in the dry.
I can get 4 Parada Spec 2 for about £350 plus fitting.

Cheers

Damo · Mar 26th, 2008, 10:46 PM

Yoko Parada Spec 2's in 215/35 R18. Just ask -G-

He has a GP with them after someone recommended them

225/35 R18 will not fit the GP 18"x7" wheels.

215/40 is to tall a tyre, 225/40 even more so and I don't think would fit the wheels again.

PmP · Mar 27th, 2008, 12:01 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Damo (original)

Yoko Parada Spec 2's in 215/35 R18. Just ask -G-

He has a GP with them after someone recommended them

225/35 R18 will not fit the GP 18"x7" wheels.

215/40 is to tall a tyre, 225/40 even more so and I don't think would fit the wheels again.

Andy Simpsons running 225/35/18 on a set of works 18 inch rims and says he has no issues, looked a good fit too. Though I would think you would get better mpg with the 215 over a 225 due to less rolling resistance. And the stretched look is very in at the minute so narrower the tire the better for looks!

Replacing my rubbish Dunlops on the S with 215/35/18's .

-G- · Mar 27th, 2008, 09:06 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Damo (original)

Yoko Parada Spec 2's in 215/35 R18. Just ask -G-

He has a GP with them after someone recommended them

Like I've said on here a few times now, best £400 I ever spent. I collected my car from the dealers at 9am and by 1 o clock the Yoko's had been fitted! Just had them rotated a few weeks ago and there still like new and thats after nearly 17,000 miles.

Freedo · Mar 27th, 2008, 11:23 AM

So the Yoko's last a long time aswell?!

PmP · Mar 27th, 2008, 01:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Freedo (original)

So the Yoko's last a long time aswell?!

My A539's on 17's last ages, must be a good compund they've come across.

Freedo · Mar 27th, 2008, 01:45 PM

Wheres the cheapest place to get them? I've had a quick look on mytyres/blackcircles but they don't seem to list the Spec2's...

Damo · Mar 27th, 2008, 06:58 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by PmP (original)

Andy Simpsons running 225/35/18 on a set of works 18 inch rims and says he has no issues, looked a good fit too. Though I would think you would get better mpg with the 215 over a 225 due to less rolling resistance. And the stretched look is very in at the minute so narrower the tire the better for looks!

Replacing my rubbish Dunlops on the S with 215/35/18's .

I know we don't listen to manucaturers much these days

and I don't know what tyres he's running, but I've not seen a manufacturer state anything other than a minimum rim width of 7.5" for a 225/35 tyre

Having said that the 215/35 Yoko's I have barely squeeze on a 7" rim

Downside to a narrower tyre those is less rim protection. The paradas sit nice and fat (for a 215/35 as I've said) so protect the rims well.

Damo · Mar 27th, 2008, 07:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Freedo (original)

So the Yoko's last a long time aswell?!

I got 20k our of my fronts, a lot of motorway but fast hard driving to.

Rears got about 35k. There was lots of tread left over tha majority of the tyre (Easily another 10k's worth) but the even wear was making a wheel bearing style noise so thought best to change for safety. Low and behold noise has gone.

Damo · Mar 27th, 2008, 07:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Freedo (original)

Wheres the cheapest place to get them? I've had a quick look on mytyres/blackcircles but they don't seem to list the Spec2's...

Cheapest place I found was selectatyre. Cheaper price than mytyres AND fitted and nitrogen inflated.

Mytyres listed them last time i looked:

mytyres.co.uk

Ahh its listed as Parada thats why. Yoko don't make the "Parada" anymore so you will get "Parada Spec 2's" either way

Yokohama S drive (there new tyre) look smart to

Freedo · Mar 27th, 2008, 08:31 PM

Mnn, so is the Yoko s-drive an uprated tyre from the Parada? Lolz, very confusing...

Damo · Mar 27th, 2008, 08:53 PM

No different tyre altogether. possibly better in the wet, but I love my Spec 2's amazing in the dry.

But then anything is better in all situations (except a flat) than those runflats you get with the JCW rims!

Hyper Active · Mar 27th, 2008, 10:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Damo (original)

No different tyre altogether. possibly better in the wet, but I love my Spec 2's amazing in the dry.

But then anything is better in all situations (except a flat) than those runflats you get with the JCW rims!

Nothing to do with the sexy tread pattern then

Damo · Mar 27th, 2008, 10:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Hyper Active (original)

Nothing to do with the sexy tread pattern then

They do look rather sexual LOL!

As are these:

Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta Sommerreifen

Not sure if they're any good though lol

Hyper Active · Mar 27th, 2008, 10:33 PM

I've only heard good things about those Vredestein Sessanta tyres

, but they don't make them in any MINI fitment sizes sadly

.

Damo · Mar 27th, 2008, 10:37 PM

Yeah they only do the model down from that

Hyper Active · Mar 27th, 2008, 10:48 PM

The standard Ultrac's still look sexy though

.

Vredestein

Damo · Mar 27th, 2008, 10:56 PM

Selectatyre always try me to get them instead of the Parada's nearly did the very first time considering the price difference (over £20 a tyre cheaper). However as I've not swapped all 4 in one go since getting the parada's never really had to think about changing to a different type of tyre.

MiniOneSam · Mar 28th, 2008, 12:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Damo (original)

I've not seen a manufacturer state anything other than a minimum rim width of 7.5" for a 225/35 tyre

Having said that the 215/35 Yoko's I have barely squeeze on a 7" rim

These Yoko's sound quite good, especially the mileage you were getting Damo

Do you reckon they'd fit some 17" S Spokes? You said you struggled to get them on your 7x (across) wheels but I don't know what the S Spokes are width-wise, anyone?

Damo · Mar 28th, 2008, 05:24 PM

S Spokes are 17x 7.

Not sure how to explain this next bit.

With reference to fitting tyres for use on a MINI. the 18x7" OEM wheels, with all the tyre manufacturers I've checked, they have listed fitting no larger than a 215 wide tyre.

However when talking about a 17x7" wheel, again for a MINI, the tyre size can in fact be wider. I think this has something to do with the sidewall being taller allowing it to be squeezed on easier. So a 225/40 R17 should fit a 17"x7" rim going off of Tyre Manufacturers recommendations.

Does any of that make sense

Mar 26th, 2008, 01:28 PM	#1
FlintyGP MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Essex, England Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 10 Offline	GP tyres Any GP owners out there running road legal 'track' tyres? I'm looking to change from runflats and fancy a set of Yoko Parada Spec 2, A048's, or Toyo R888's for summer & occasional track use. If moving up a width from standard 205's, should i go for: 215/40/18 225/40/18 215/35/18 or 225/35/18 I'm not worried about Road Noise, just wish to get more grip in the dry. I can get 4 Parada Spec 2 for about £350 plus fitting. Cheers

Mar 27th, 2008, 09:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
-G- Chasing 295bhp! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lancashire Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 169 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Damo (original) Yoko Parada Spec 2's in 215/35 R18. Just ask -G- He has a GP with them after someone recommended them Like I've said on here a few times now, best £400 I ever spent. I collected my car from the dealers at 9am and by 1 o clock the Yoko's had been fitted! Just had them rotated a few weeks ago and there still like new and thats after nearly 17,000 miles. GP 1021

Mar 27th, 2008, 11:23 AM	#5 (permalink)
Freedo MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tunbridge Wells,Kent Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 156 Offline	So the Yoko's last a long time aswell?! More whiiiine please!

Mar 27th, 2008, 01:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
Freedo MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tunbridge Wells,Kent Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 156 Offline	Wheres the cheapest place to get them? I've had a quick look on mytyres/blackcircles but they don't seem to list the Spec2's... More whiiiine please!

Mar 27th, 2008, 08:31 PM	#11 (permalink)
Freedo MINI2 Regular My Classifieds Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tunbridge Wells,Kent Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 156 Offline	Mnn, so is the Yoko s-drive an uprated tyre from the Parada? Lolz, very confusing... More whiiiine please!

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Mar 26th, 2008, 10:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
Damo Disillusioned with MINI2 My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 10,449 Offline	Yoko Parada Spec 2's in 215/35 R18. Just ask -G- He has a GP with them after someone recommended them 225/35 R18 will not fit the GP 18"x7" wheels. 215/40 is to tall a tyre, 225/40 even more so and I don't think would fit the wheels again.

Mar 27th, 2008, 12:01 AM	#3 (permalink)
PmP GP 0380 My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saintfield Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 2,674 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Damo (original) Yoko Parada Spec 2's in 215/35 R18. Just ask -G- He has a GP with them after someone recommended them 225/35 R18 will not fit the GP 18"x7" wheels. 215/40 is to tall a tyre, 225/40 even more so and I don't think would fit the wheels again. Andy Simpsons running 225/35/18 on a set of works 18 inch rims and says he has no issues, looked a good fit too. Though I would think you would get better mpg with the 215 over a 225 due to less rolling resistance. And the stretched look is very in at the minute so narrower the tire the better for looks! Replacing my rubbish Dunlops on the S with 215/35/18's .

Mar 27th, 2008, 01:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
PmP GP 0380 My Classifieds Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Saintfield Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 2,674 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Freedo (original) So the Yoko's last a long time aswell?! My A539's on 17's last ages, must be a good compund they've come across.

Mar 27th, 2008, 06:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
Damo Disillusioned with MINI2 My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 10,449 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by PmP (original) Andy Simpsons running 225/35/18 on a set of works 18 inch rims and says he has no issues, looked a good fit too. Though I would think you would get better mpg with the 215 over a 225 due to less rolling resistance. And the stretched look is very in at the minute so narrower the tire the better for looks! Replacing my rubbish Dunlops on the S with 215/35/18's . I know we don't listen to manucaturers much these days and I don't know what tyres he's running, but I've not seen a manufacturer state anything other than a minimum rim width of 7.5" for a 225/35 tyre Having said that the 215/35 Yoko's I have barely squeeze on a 7" rim Downside to a narrower tyre those is less rim protection. The paradas sit nice and fat (for a 215/35 as I've said) so protect the rims well.

Mar 27th, 2008, 07:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
Damo Disillusioned with MINI2 My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 10,449 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Freedo (original) So the Yoko's last a long time aswell?! I got 20k our of my fronts, a lot of motorway but fast hard driving to. Rears got about 35k. There was lots of tread left over tha majority of the tyre (Easily another 10k's worth) but the even wear was making a wheel bearing style noise so thought best to change for safety. Low and behold noise has gone.

Mar 27th, 2008, 07:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
Damo Disillusioned with MINI2 My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 10,449 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Freedo (original) Wheres the cheapest place to get them? I've had a quick look on mytyres/blackcircles but they don't seem to list the Spec2's... Cheapest place I found was selectatyre. Cheaper price than mytyres AND fitted and nitrogen inflated. Mytyres listed them last time i looked: mytyres.co.uk Ahh its listed as Parada thats why. Yoko don't make the "Parada" anymore so you will get "Parada Spec 2's" either way Yokohama S drive (there new tyre) look smart to

Mar 27th, 2008, 08:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
Damo Disillusioned with MINI2 My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 10,449 Offline	No different tyre altogether. possibly better in the wet, but I love my Spec 2's amazing in the dry. But then anything is better in all situations (except a flat) than those runflats you get with the JCW rims!

Mar 27th, 2008, 10:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
Hyper Active Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Watford, Herts. UK Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 2,014 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Damo (original) No different tyre altogether. possibly better in the wet, but I love my Spec 2's amazing in the dry. But then anything is better in all situations (except a flat) than those runflats you get with the JCW rims! Nothing to do with the sexy tread pattern then

Mar 27th, 2008, 10:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
Damo Disillusioned with MINI2 My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 10,449 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Hyper Active (original) Nothing to do with the sexy tread pattern then They do look rather sexual LOL! As are these: Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta Sommerreifen Not sure if they're any good though lol

Mar 27th, 2008, 10:33 PM	#15 (permalink)
Hyper Active Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Watford, Herts. UK Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 2,014 Offline	I've only heard good things about those Vredestein Sessanta tyres , but they don't make them in any MINI fitment sizes sadly .

Mar 27th, 2008, 10:37 PM	#16 (permalink)
Damo Disillusioned with MINI2 My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 10,449 Offline	Yeah they only do the model down from that

Mar 27th, 2008, 10:48 PM	#17 (permalink)
Hyper Active Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Watford, Herts. UK Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 2,014 Offline	The standard Ultrac's still look sexy though . Vredestein

Mar 27th, 2008, 10:56 PM	#18 (permalink)
Damo Disillusioned with MINI2 My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 10,449 Offline	Selectatyre always try me to get them instead of the Parada's nearly did the very first time considering the price difference (over £20 a tyre cheaper). However as I've not swapped all 4 in one go since getting the parada's never really had to think about changing to a different type of tyre.

Mar 28th, 2008, 12:57 PM	#19 (permalink)
MiniOneSam BBMC 003 My Classifieds Join Date: May 2007 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 864 Offline	Quote: Originally Posted by Damo (original) I've not seen a manufacturer state anything other than a minimum rim width of 7.5" for a 225/35 tyre Having said that the 215/35 Yoko's I have barely squeeze on a 7" rim These Yoko's sound quite good, especially the mileage you were getting Damo Do you reckon they'd fit some 17" S Spokes? You said you struggled to get them on your 7x (across) wheels but I don't know what the S Spokes are width-wise, anyone?

Mar 28th, 2008, 05:24 PM	#20 (permalink)
Damo Disillusioned with MINI2 My Classifieds Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MINItorque.com Local Time: 02:22 AM Posts: 10,449 Offline	S Spokes are 17x 7. Not sure how to explain this next bit. With reference to fitting tyres for use on a MINI. the 18x7" OEM wheels, with all the tyre manufacturers I've checked, they have listed fitting no larger than a 215 wide tyre. However when talking about a 17x7" wheel, again for a MINI, the tyre size can in fact be wider. I think this has something to do with the sidewall being taller allowing it to be squeezed on easier. So a 225/40 R17 should fit a 17"x7" rim going off of Tyre Manufacturers recommendations. Does any of that make sense

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