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Crawdad · Sep 29th, 2002, 09:41 PM

I have a Cooper on order with 16" 5-star wheels with run-flat tires, a choice I made partly on the assurance by my dealer that unlike the S, the Cooper comes with a spare even if you order it with run-flats. Now I'm looking at a 2003 owner's manual and it's a bit ambiguous on the question: in a couple of places it reminds you (without mentioning the model) that if your car is equipped with run-flat tires, you don't have a spare. I can't tell if that's sloppy editing or The Way Things Really Are.

Reason this is important, of course, is that I'd like to be able to put winter tires on the car without paying $200 each for them, and still have some chance of making it to grandmother's house if I pick up a nail or something.

So, a question for those of you who are driving Coopers (not S's) with factory run-flat tires: do you have a spare?

Crawdad
BRG Cooper on order

mininow · Sep 29th, 2002, 10:00 PM

I have the 16 inch runflats via the sports package and a spare. Your dealer knows what he/she is talking about.

Crawdad · Sep 29th, 2002, 11:02 PM

Thanks. I'm running out of things to fret about.

C.

Bilbo Baggins · Sep 29th, 2002, 11:06 PM

Crawdad,

Just worry about finding enough fun roads to drive on. That, and how to keep a clean record while you do drive.

HarryHBMCC · Sep 30th, 2002, 07:27 AM

Not to make you worry but I have runflats and NO spare on my Cooper. At the Canadian MINI website, building a MINI and selecting a spare DESELECTS the sport package. I hope your dealer knows what he is talking about and that you get what you want.

That said, I'm looking forward to some runflat winter tires. For all that they will cost more, the thought of changing a tire in January with my fingers frozen trying to undo the bolts is not nice and I don't know how well a space-saver spare will do along with a snow tire on the other side of the same axle -- can't be fun to drive that way in snow.

Harry

Crashandburn · Sep 30th, 2002, 07:46 AM

16" run flats on my Cooper, no spare and no mobility kit. I believe you had to specify the space saver spare at order (as an optional extra), and I know you can't add it afterwards - if you didn't specify it, it can't be retrofitted.

sdmidget · Sep 30th, 2002, 08:56 AM

Spare standard on Cooper w/ runflats apparently is a US thing. [have one on mine].

L.Mini · Sep 30th, 2002, 11:36 AM

I have the run-flats and the spare also.....but I don't have the sport package...only most of the options from it.

I would double check if you wanted to have a spare. I don't understand why you couldn't have both the sport package and a spare tire.

HarryHBMCC · Sep 30th, 2002, 11:49 AM

The only reason not to have them on a Cooper is weight. To offset the heavier runflat tires, not carrying the jack and spare tire helps to keep the weight down. On the S, the centre exhaust and rear battery mean carrying a spare is not possible.

Harry

Crawdad · Sep 30th, 2002, 03:17 PM

Apparently sdmidget is correct that it is specific to the U.S. market to equip Coopers with spares whether or not they're ordered with run-flats. My motoring advisor (love that!) obligingly looked under the skirts of the two 03 Coopers that recently arrived on her lot. Both have 16" run-flats, both have spares. Which suits me fine.

She discovered something else missing, though: the auxiliary electrical output seems to have disappeared.

Crawdad

HarryHBMCC · Sep 30th, 2002, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crawdad
Apparently sdmidget is correct that it is specific to the U.S. market to equip Coopers with spares whether or not they're ordered with run-flats. My motoring advisor (love that!) obligingly looked under the skirts of the two 03 Coopers that recently arrived on her lot. Both have 16" run-flats, both have spares. Which suits me fine.

She discovered something else missing, though: the auxiliary electrical output seems to have disappeared.

Crawdad

MINI giveth and MINI taketh away

Harry

Sejanus · Oct 1st, 2002, 12:28 AM

Correct on both counts. The spare as standard is a US feature and '03 models don't have the rear electrical outlet.

ddp · Oct 1st, 2002, 09:01 AM

Got 16" runflats on Indi Blue Cooper and the spare. Actually saw it this past weekend when the car was up on a lift getting a new stainless steel exhaust installed.

-Dan

Sep 29th, 2002, 09:41 PM	#1
Crawdad MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cincinnati Local Time: 07:46 PM Posts: 20 Offline	Run-flats on a Cooper I have a Cooper on order with 16" 5-star wheels with run-flat tires, a choice I made partly on the assurance by my dealer that unlike the S, the Cooper comes with a spare even if you order it with run-flats. Now I'm looking at a 2003 owner's manual and it's a bit ambiguous on the question: in a couple of places it reminds you (without mentioning the model) that if your car is equipped with run-flat tires, you don't have a spare. I can't tell if that's sloppy editing or The Way Things Really Are. Reason this is important, of course, is that I'd like to be able to put winter tires on the car without paying $200 each for them, and still have some chance of making it to grandmother's house if I pick up a nail or something. So, a question for those of you who are driving Coopers (not S's) with factory run-flat tires: do you have a spare? Crawdad BRG Cooper on order

Sep 29th, 2002, 10:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
mininow MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Local Time: 12:46 AM Posts: 8 Offline	I have the 16 inch runflats via the sports package and a spare. Your dealer knows what he/she is talking about. 2002 MC, Silk Green/White - pretty loaded Last edited by mininow : Sep 30th, 2002 at 07:43 AM.

Sep 29th, 2002, 11:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
Bilbo Baggins MINI2 Master Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Shire, Middle Earth Local Time: 08:46 PM Posts: 8,857 Offline	Crawdad, Just worry about finding enough fun roads to drive on. That, and how to keep a clean record while you do drive. Motor on, Dudes and Dudettes!!! '06 MCS SB/S '02 MCS DS/W (retired)

Sep 30th, 2002, 07:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
HarryHBMCC MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Guelph, Ontario, Can Local Time: 07:46 PM Posts: 2,672 Offline	Not to make you worry but I have runflats and NO spare on my Cooper. At the Canadian MINI website, building a MINI and selecting a spare DESELECTS the sport package. I hope your dealer knows what he is talking about and that you get what you want. That said, I'm looking forward to some runflat winter tires. For all that they will cost more, the thought of changing a tire in January with my fingers frozen trying to undo the bolts is not nice and I don't know how well a space-saver spare will do along with a snow tire on the other side of the same axle -- can't be fun to drive that way in snow. Harry MINI Cooper Cabrio: now the car with go cart handling really feels like an open go cart! "... the only man that can come home at 3 am in the morning without getting into trouble with his spouse is the owner of a British sports car!" -- Phil Bailey

Sep 30th, 2002, 08:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
sdmidget MINI2 Master Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lancaster, PA (USA) Local Time: 07:46 PM Posts: 934 Offline	Spare standard on Cooper w/ runflats apparently is a US thing. [have one on mine]. 2002 BRG/W [BRidGet] traded in on 2005 Jet Black/White/White Cooper [?name?] 2005 #1 wrecked by SUV on 6/03/05 2005 Jet Black/White/White Cooper (2005 #2) [?name?] picked up on 6/24/05

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Sep 29th, 2002, 11:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Crawdad MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cincinnati Local Time: 07:46 PM Posts: 20 Offline	Thanks. I'm running out of things to fret about. C.

Sep 30th, 2002, 07:46 AM	#6 (permalink)
Crashandburn MINI2 Regular Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Glasgow Local Time: 01:46 AM Posts: 341 Offline	16" run flats on my Cooper, no spare and no mobility kit. I believe you had to specify the space saver spare at order (as an optional extra), and I know you can't add it afterwards - if you didn't specify it, it can't be retrofitted.

Sep 30th, 2002, 11:36 AM	#8 (permalink)
L.Mini MINI2 Regular Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: G-belt, Maryland Local Time: 12:46 AM Posts: 122 Offline	I have the run-flats and the spare also.....but I don't have the sport package...only most of the options from it. I would double check if you wanted to have a spare. I don't understand why you couldn't have both the sport package and a spare tire. Got Belly-Shirts?

Sep 30th, 2002, 11:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
HarryHBMCC MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Guelph, Ontario, Can Local Time: 07:46 PM Posts: 2,672 Offline	The only reason not to have them on a Cooper is weight. To offset the heavier runflat tires, not carrying the jack and spare tire helps to keep the weight down. On the S, the centre exhaust and rear battery mean carrying a spare is not possible. Harry MINI Cooper Cabrio: now the car with go cart handling really feels like an open go cart! "... the only man that can come home at 3 am in the morning without getting into trouble with his spouse is the owner of a British sports car!" -- Phil Bailey

Sep 30th, 2002, 03:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
Crawdad MINI2 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cincinnati Local Time: 07:46 PM Posts: 20 Offline	Apparently sdmidget is correct that it is specific to the U.S. market to equip Coopers with spares whether or not they're ordered with run-flats. My motoring advisor (love that!) obligingly looked under the skirts of the two 03 Coopers that recently arrived on her lot. Both have 16" run-flats, both have spares. Which suits me fine. She discovered something else missing, though: the auxiliary electrical output seems to have disappeared. Crawdad

Sep 30th, 2002, 09:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
HarryHBMCC MINI2 Master Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Guelph, Ontario, Can Local Time: 07:46 PM Posts: 2,672 Offline	Quote: Originally posted by Crawdad Apparently sdmidget is correct that it is specific to the U.S. market to equip Coopers with spares whether or not they're ordered with run-flats. My motoring advisor (love that!) obligingly looked under the skirts of the two 03 Coopers that recently arrived on her lot. Both have 16" run-flats, both have spares. Which suits me fine. She discovered something else missing, though: the auxiliary electrical output seems to have disappeared. Crawdad MINI giveth and MINI taketh away Harry MINI Cooper Cabrio: now the car with go cart handling really feels like an open go cart! "... the only man that can come home at 3 am in the morning without getting into trouble with his spouse is the owner of a British sports car!" -- Phil Bailey

Oct 1st, 2002, 12:28 AM	#12 (permalink)
Sejanus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: West Sacramento Local Time: 05:46 PM Posts: 4,250 Offline	Correct on both counts. The spare as standard is a US feature and '03 models don't have the rear electrical outlet.

Oct 1st, 2002, 09:01 AM	#13 (permalink)
ddp MINI2 Regular Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Chatham, NJ Local Time: 12:46 AM Posts: 93 Offline	Got 16" runflats on Indi Blue Cooper and the spare. Actually saw it this past weekend when the car was up on a lift getting a new stainless steel exhaust installed. -Dan

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