Recommend me a 17" tire... - MINI Cooper Forum
Go Back   MINI Cooper Forum > MINI Technical Forums > Wheels, Tyres & Brakes


Wheels, Tyres & Brakes
Find Sponsor products associated with this forum
For (almost) all things alloy, steel and rubber, plus upgrading your MINI's stopping ability

Sponsored by:

Mini2.com is the premier Mini Cooper Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Spare Tire Kit MiniDeLux MINI Clubman 2 Mar 18th, 2013 02:30 PM
Service Schedules adham General Discussion 1 Oct 1st, 2012 05:46 PM
Tire pressure sensor ShadowFax Wheels, Tyres & Brakes 3 Aug 6th, 2012 06:23 PM

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Dec 16th, 2009, 07:59 PM
MINIcharged's Avatar
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Berkshire, UK
Posts: 118
Local Time: 12:19 PM
United Kingdom
Question Recommend me a 17" tire...

Hi all, I know there are a heap of similar threads on this topic (I'm pretty sure I've read them all!) but...

I'm about to change the current runflats (Michelin Primacy HP 205/45/17) for a set of non runflats to hopefully improve the ride quality, not to mention grip, especially in the wet!

I have checked with my insurers (to be on the safe side) and there is no issue changing tires to non runflats. I'm currently running s-spokes. I did think about changing to lighter 16" wheels but time is running out and I'm going to need tyres shortly so will be sticking with the 17" s-spokes.

So my questions:

• Which size? 205/40/17 or 215/40/17 or 215/45/17?
-All these will fit and are more common sizes than the original 205/45/17 so are significantly cheaper. The dimension change is within tolerance, but which is better suited to the car?

• Will the 215's be too wide and introduce tramlining?

• Toyo Proxes T1-R or Goodyear Eagle f1 or curveball choice Pirelli Nero's?

I'm keen on getting feedback from anyone running Proxes or Eagles as these are my first choices as well as any comments (good or bad) from anyone who has done a similar change.

Thanks in advance, long post for a quick question I know!

Unmodified R53 2005 Cooper S btw.


Some links for people who may stumble across this thread through the search...
blackcircles.com (useful for checking prices)
Tire size speedometer reading change calculator
Alternative tire size change calculator
FAQ wheel and Tire info of course

Last edited by MINIcharged; Dec 16th, 2009 at 09:39 PM. Reason: Added size choice
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Dec 16th, 2009, 09:04 PM
MINIAC's Avatar
MINI2 Premium Member
Canned
Offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Tsunami Zone
Posts: 13,888
Local Time: 04:19 AM
United States Male View MINIAC's Dark Silver & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile View MINIAC's MINI Features Album View MINIAC's MINI Showcase Slideshow View MINIAC's Classified Ads
If you're going with 40-series go with 215 width for more protection against pot-holes.

You can also run 215/45-17.

Which model of Goodyear F1 are you considering?
Reply With Quote
Thanks for this post from:
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Dec 16th, 2009, 09:37 PM
MINIcharged's Avatar
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Berkshire, UK
Posts: 118
Local Time: 12:19 PM
United Kingdom
Quote: Originally Posted by MINIAC (original)
If you're going with 40-series go with 215 width for more protection against pot-holes.

You can also run 215/45-17.

Which model of Goodyear F1 are you considering?

Thanks, that's a good idea I'm still a little cautious of the 215 though due to possible tramlining.

I'd initially discounted the 215/45/17 due to the increase in diameter, I'd rather have a slightly under-reading speedo than an over-reading one. Although having just checked it looks so negligible it would be ok (satnav tells me I'm currently over-reading 2mph @ 70mph indicated).

I was looking at the F1 GSD3's I ran them on an mx-5 and loved them. They are slightly more expensive than the Toyos, but not as much as the Asymetric F1s.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Dec 16th, 2009, 10:09 PM
MINIAC's Avatar
MINI2 Premium Member
Canned
Offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Tsunami Zone
Posts: 13,888
Local Time: 04:19 AM
United States Male View MINIAC's Dark Silver & White 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Profile View MINIAC's MINI Features Album View MINIAC's MINI Showcase Slideshow View MINIAC's Classified Ads
I thought GS-D3's were being discontinued
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Dec 17th, 2009, 02:19 AM
Eds
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 95
Local Time: 05:19 AM
Canada Male
The Hankook Ventus V12 Evo has very high rating/review. It is Ultra High Perf. Summer though. I have it in 205x45x17 but have not tested it yet due to my car in winter storage. Are you looking for all-season?

04 MCS IB/W : Sport Package : Xenons : Moonroof : S2 Mods.
Reply With Quote
Thanks for this post from:
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Dec 17th, 2009, 08:25 AM
MINIcharged's Avatar
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Berkshire, UK
Posts: 118
Local Time: 12:19 PM
United Kingdom
I wasn't aware the GSD3's are being discontinued as I can still get hold of some, although that might explain the limited sizes available...

The car is used all year round so a pure summer/trackday tire won't really be suitable, touch wood winters aren't especially bad in this area of the uk (Berkshire) so a perormance tire should be ok. I had the Eagles on my mx-5 last year and they where bearable unless used on snowy unsalted roads at which point they where useless. (as expected). Wet weather performance is more important to me as I've found the current tyres prone to aquaplaning.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Dec 17th, 2009, 11:59 AM
MINI2 Newbie
Offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Shrewsbury
Posts: 37
Local Time: 11:19 AM
United Kingdom
Ive just replaced my pirelli runflats on my s spokes.
I went for a full set of 215/40/17 falken FK452's

After reading reviews on them i thought id give them a go over the GSD3s that i was looking at.

I must say i am massively impressed. Turn in grip has improved dramatically as has ride comfort and i get very little tramlining that i had before in bucketloads.

Overall i would definately recommend. the 215/40s look sweet on the rims aswell!!
Reply With Quote
Thanks for this post from:
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Dec 17th, 2009, 01:15 PM
MINIcharged's Avatar
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Berkshire, UK
Posts: 118
Local Time: 12:19 PM
United Kingdom
I'll look into those, I hadn't considered Falkens before.

Any more thoughts from anyone running any of these sizes?

It'd be nice to have a collection of 17" specific mini reviews for when people find this thread in the future... it is a very common size rim...
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Dec 17th, 2009, 06:01 PM
Themajickman's Avatar
MINI2 Newbie
Offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Atlanta Georgia
Posts: 9
Local Time: 07:19 AM
United States View Themajickman's Lightning Blue & Dark Blue 1st Gen MINI Cooper S Convertible Profile
United-States Falken Ziex ZE912

Quote: Originally Posted by MINIcharged (original)
I'm about to change the current runflats (Michelin Primacy HP 205/45/17) for a set of non runflats to hopefully improve the ride quality, not to mention grip, especially in the wet!

You might want to check the Falken Ziex ZE912's they have been rated very highly and have a 40,000 mile tread wear warranty.


2007 | MCSCa | LiB | Sports | Premium | Cold | soft-Córdoba beige | Dinan CAI | Blue gauge faces | Marshall Mini gauges w/ pods | stubby antenna |
Reply With Quote
Thanks for this post from:
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Dec 19th, 2009, 05:07 PM
MINIcharged's Avatar
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Berkshire, UK
Posts: 118
Local Time: 12:19 PM
United Kingdom
Having done some more reading around these seem to be the popular options and opinions…

Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3 - Excelent dry & wet weather grip, not particularly long lasting, quite expensive, rubbish in snow.
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric - As GSD3's but more expensive and better all round, the class leader?
Toyo Proxes T1-R - Finding it difficult to find any bad comments about them, seems they are like the Eagle GSD3s but cheaper.
Pirelli Nero - Similar to Toyo/Goodyear but more expensive, some say not as good.
Falken FK 452 - Comparable to the Goodyear Eagle F1/Toyo proxies and cheaper, excellent value for money.
Hankook Ventus V12 Evo K110 - Seems similar to Falken FK 452, in terms of price and performance.
Yokohama Parada Spec 2 - Look amazing, great grip in the dry, not so good in the wet, prone to aquaplaning.
Falken Ziex ZE912 - Comfortable, hard wearing but not as handling focused as Falken 452.



At the moment I'm leaning towards the Toyo Proxes T1-R, they seem to be popular and are the same price as the Falken FK 452 and cheaper than the goodyear. (Currently approx £80 each)

I think I'm sold on 215/40/17 as a size now. Anyone running this size care to comment?

I would love to get some feedback and/or comparisons from anyone with experience of any of the above…
How are you finding them in regards to dry grip, wet grip, aquaplaning, comfort, longevity, cost etc.

Thanks again!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Dec 20th, 2009, 08:19 AM
mab01uk's Avatar
MINI2 Master
Offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: London
Posts: 5,679
Local Time: 12:19 PM
United Kingdom Male
I,m running 215/40 x 17 Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3 and would agree with the comments.....not noticed they are rubbish in snow but don't get that much to worry about here. Had no trouble getting them recently even though there was rumours of them being discontinued over a year ago.
Also a much smoother ride and no tramlining to speak of when compared with my old Pirelli runflats.
Reply With Quote
Thanks for this post from:
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Dec 20th, 2009, 11:59 AM
adam_Randell's Avatar
MINI2 Regular
Offline
Send a message via MSN to adam_Randell
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Birmingham & Lincoln
Posts: 3,726
Local Time: 12:19 PM
United Kingdom Male View adam_Randell's Pepper White & Black 2nd Gen MINI Cooper Profile View adam_Randell's Classified Ads
I like the Bridgestone Potenza - good grippy tyre, runflat and has a rim protector!


Reply With Quote
Thanks for this post from:
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Dec 20th, 2009, 09:14 PM
MINIcharged's Avatar
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Berkshire, UK
Posts: 118
Local Time: 12:19 PM
United Kingdom
Quote: Originally Posted by mab01uk (original)
I,m running 215/40 x 17 Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3 and would agree with the comments.....not noticed they are rubbish in snow but don't get that much to worry about here. Had no trouble getting them recently even though there was rumours of them being discontinued over a year ago.
Also a much smoother ride and no tramlining to speak of when compared with my old Pirelli runflats.

That's good to hear, I've had past experience with the GSD3s on another car and found them very good. I wonder how the Proxes compare though as they seem to be cheaper but have a very similar tread pattern.

I'm still a little concerned that the increase in tyre width with the 215s might introduce some tramlining so it's good to hear that it's fine.

Any more comments? I'm suprised there haven't been more to be honest. Everyone has tires after all!
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Jan 2nd, 2010, 03:14 PM
Scrounger's Avatar
MINI2 Regular
Offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 207
Local Time: 12:19 PM
United Kingdom View Scrounger's Classified Ads
Quote: Originally Posted by adam_Randell (original)
I like the Bridgestone Potenza - good grippy tyre, runflat and has a rim protector!

how much did you pay and where from

Ive currently got Conti 205/45/17 on at the min and will need the fronts replacing in a couple of thousand miles.

Would like to stick to the runflats though
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Jan 3rd, 2010, 11:44 PM
Has met Quack Quack Jack
MINI One Seven
Offline
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 4,106
Local Time: 11:19 AM
United Kingdom Male View M.O.S's Pepper White & Body Color 1st Gen MINI One Profile
Avon ZZ3, Bridgestone Potenza re50 non runflat (they're better grip wise than run flats, but if you value runflats then get the re50 runflats )


The Original MINI One Seven
Yorkshire MINI Register - PM for details
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply
Tags: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Spare Tire Kit MiniDeLux MINI Clubman 2 Mar 18th, 2013 02:30 PM
Service Schedules adham General Discussion 1 Oct 1st, 2012 05:46 PM
Tire pressure sensor ShadowFax Wheels, Tyres & Brakes 3 Aug 6th, 2012 06:23 PM

» Recent Threads
Detroit axle wheel hubs
Today 06:35 AM
Last post by mattmro444
Today 06:35 AM
0 Replies, 60 Views
replace water pump pulley only, or water pump too?
Today 03:50 AM
by erikor
Last post by erikor
Today 03:50 AM
0 Replies, 94 Views
Timing chain tensioner upgrade?
Aug 26th, 2014 11:05 PM
by ben2012
Last post by erikor
Today 03:37 AM
2 Replies, 259 Views
New Online Magazine for Track Day Enthusiasts
Apr 14th, 2014 12:56 AM
Last post by AutoTrackDay
Today 02:07 AM
21 Replies, 2,872 Views
Trying to figure out where the last connector goes???
Yesterday 10:28 PM
by Eirhead
Last post by Eirhead
Yesterday 10:28 PM
0 Replies, 124 Views
New member seeking advice!!
Yesterday 07:50 PM
by Buick7
Last post by Buick7
Yesterday 07:50 PM
0 Replies, 155 Views
speed sensor
Yesterday 06:52 PM
Last post by Goofeyrider
Yesterday 06:52 PM
0 Replies, 117 Views
Cooper EML very odd!
Yesterday 05:33 PM
by maffup
Last post by maffup
Yesterday 05:33 PM
0 Replies, 167 Views
heat problem
Aug 24th, 2014 10:04 AM
Last post by mab01uk
Yesterday 04:24 PM
8 Replies, 584 Views
Need opinions. do I join the Mini family or the VW family.
Yesterday 10:17 AM
by jnapier
Last post by mab01uk
Yesterday 04:17 PM
1 Replies, 245 Views
Brake light with car on lift indicated.
Yesterday 02:01 PM
Last post by stexasmini1
Yesterday 02:01 PM
0 Replies, 164 Views
Can't post in Classifieds
Aug 26th, 2014 07:47 AM
by Jonny_5
Last post by Jonny_5
Yesterday 12:19 PM
4 Replies, 443 Views
how to extinguish brake wear warning light
Yesterday 01:44 AM
Last post by cristo
Yesterday 12:17 PM
3 Replies, 306 Views
Blanking plug for AUX install
Aug 6th, 2014 09:55 AM
Last post by excession
Yesterday 11:11 AM
2 Replies, 514 Views
PAssenger Door won't open from inside using the handle
Aug 9th, 2014 09:13 PM
Last post by The Nun
Yesterday 09:10 AM
2 Replies, 441 Views
Powe steering pump fan
Aug 26th, 2014 05:42 PM
Last post by mab01uk
Yesterday 07:29 AM
3 Replies, 301 Views
What do you think of this mini? And a couple questions...
Jul 12th, 2014 08:44 AM
Last post by Moonwalker09
Yesterday 01:04 AM
4 Replies, 962 Views
My New Mini MCS
Mar 22nd, 2013 11:15 PM
by mossyS
Last post by KarenTMonn
Aug 26th, 2014 11:50 PM
6 Replies, 2,908 Views
TWINI - Twin engine R53 Endurance Race Car
Jul 18th, 2013 08:30 PM
by pooper
Last post by KarenTMonn
Aug 26th, 2014 11:37 PM
2 Replies, 2,674 Views
$115 Buttonwillow Raceway August 30-31st
Aug 21st, 2014 06:29 AM
by harvie
Last post by harvie
Aug 26th, 2014 10:28 PM
1 Replies, 311 Views
» Premium
» Auto Insurance
» Wheel & Tire Center

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.1

All times are GMT. The time now is 11:19 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2