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Old Apr 22nd, 2004, 12:05 PM
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Toyo Proxes T1-S or Yokohama AVS Sport

I think I'm deciding between:
Yokohama AVS SPORT205/50 ZR16 87W RPB
(http://www.sicherbestellen.de/cgi-bi...D35377&dsco=10)
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Toyo PROXES T1-S205/50 ZR16 87W Rim-protection
(http://www.sicherbestellen.de/cgi-bi...230520&dsco=10)

Price difference is pretty huge and I'm cash strapped just now.... are the Toyo tyres good enough, or are the Yokos MILES better?
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Old Apr 22nd, 2004, 02:16 PM
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Why /50 and 16" ?
Comfort issue ?

Anyhow, I was deciding between Toyo Proxes, and Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3.
Ended up with Goodyear. No regrets, good for track and "normal" use.

What kind of tire/tyre depends on what kind of driving you plan for it.

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Old Apr 22nd, 2004, 02:26 PM
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16" because that's the wheel size I have, 205/50 is the most popular size for aftermarket 16's, and cheaper than wider, lower profile too!
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Old Apr 22nd, 2004, 02:40 PM
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AVS, Proxes, and Eagle F1 are all good tires/tyres, but they are designed for a little more than "normal" driving. If advanced driving is in your future, and my biased opinion about the wheather in the UK is correct (rain, rain, and some more rain), then I would suggest Toyo.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Hobbe
AVS, Proxes, and Eagle F1 are all good tires/tyres, but they are designed for a little more than "normal" driving. If advanced driving is in your future, and my biased opinion about the wheather in the UK is correct (rain, rain, and some more rain), then I would suggest Toyo.

My humble suggestion only

You haven't seen my "normal" driving have you?

Oh, and your assumption is wrong, it's more like... rain, clouds, rain, rain, sun, rain, rain and sun, clouds.....



I think the Toyo tyres seem pretty good anyway from reports on here and elsewhere, especially if the weather is not perfect.
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i had the toyos on since mid march and today is the first sunny day. therefore, i can seriously vouch for the fact that they really stick on the black stuff when it's really wet.
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I think the Toyo's will last longer and handle better in the wet ... might be lighter too
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I've read good things about the Toyo's and if I can my Wheels their the tyres I'm getting.
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I have toyos on there very good but i dont think they will last long

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I have toyos on there very good but i dont think they will last long

How long? How hard are you driving it?
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Quote: Originally Posted by duncanbanana
I have toyos on there very good but i dont think they will last long

Not the way you drive.
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I have toyos on there very good but i dont think they will last long

The wear rating on the Toyo's is 280 and that on the Yoko's is 180, so Toyo's are going to last longer.
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Put them on begining of January 10500miles, just rotated them 15000 u can see the difference between the fronts and the backs , fronts where well worn , i believe Dinka got 4000 miles out of his fronts before needing changing , but as Mo says its how you drive it and i must admit i drive mine hard so no grumbles there.My run flats at the front lasted 10500 miles put i rather have the Toyos on then them . They really make the car feel different - steering is alot lighter too

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The 'AVS' is an exceptional high performance tyre that is reflected by the price. Usually the preserve of Supercars.

The 'T1-S' came 2nd (I think) in a major performance tyre test a while back and even surprised the testers! Better value for money, if your strapped for cash, and more than adequate performance, wet or dry.

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Just put on Falken Azenis - 215 x45x16 in place of runflats on my 16" xlite rims. Car is smoother, sticks like glue. Car is slightly slower in acceleration as tires seem heavier. I'm in SoCal so am not concerned about wet weather. You might consider them.
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