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MG Zr ZS ZT Alloys Fit PCD 4x100 MINIs

MG ZR, ZS, ZT wheels are an exact fit on any MINIs with 4 bolt hubs. They are an exact fit
PCD 4x100, 17x7, Offset/ET45, Centre Bore 56.1

Mostly they are 17" and in silver.

Reason it might be interesting is that used they are ridiculously cheap compared to used alloys advertised as being 'MINI'. There is a set in silver near me up on FaceBlab asking £30!!! OK one they cut a locking bolt off and made a mess of the bolt hole. But you can get a single for about £25 if it bothers you.

They may not be to everyones taste. They look a little like Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2s, which are expensive and popular, but have more spokes - 15 v 12. They are very strong and relatively light, 9.6kgs each. Most OE MINI wheels are up at the 11.5kgs each. For those not into the technicality, light = good.

Some pics to show how they look. Mine are sparkly gloss black.

You don't need to use the 'big' MG centre caps. You can fit 60mm/58mm centre caps and leave the bolts exposed, as they look on many OE wheels.

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This has probably been asked before but my car has 16 inch wheels. With the correct (assuming lower profile) tyres can these be swapped out without any other adjustment?

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This has probably been asked before but my car has 16 inch wheels. With the correct (assuming lower profile) tyres can these be swapped out without any other adjustment?

Thanks for the thread btw!!


I’m 99% sure you’d be fine to whack them straight on. Would look good.


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They have radius rather than tapered seats for the nuts/bolts though, don't they?
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They have radius rather than tapered seats for the nuts/bolts though, don't they?
Im very much a newbie, what does this mean?

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Im very much a newbie, what does this mean?
Good question. MG Rovers have nuts rather than the bolts MINIs have. Nuts or bolts, it doesn't matter which, can be radius or tapered, to match the seats in the wheel they are being used on.

The bolts on our MINIs are tapered bolts, as MINI wheels have tapered seats. Jim is saying the MG ZR, ZS, ZT alloys have radius seats. The difference is the shape/contour of the 'shoulders' of the hole the nut/bolt seats into when done up.

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Thanks a lot guys. Love the information on this forum!!

So if mine don't fit properly, and wheels don't come with nuts/bolts, I just need to buy radius ones and will be OK?

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Thanks a lot guys. Love the information on this forum!!
So if mine don't fit properly, and wheels don't come with nuts/bolts, I just need to buy radius ones and will be OK?
Correct Jack. I've got a set of MINI OE S-Spokes and of MG ZRs upstairs and I'm burgered if I can see much difference in the seats for the bolts in the wheels.

If Jim is correct seems there are three ways to deal with it:
1) Get a set of radius bolts, as you say
2) Get a set of Wheel Bolt Washers to Convert Tapered to Radius Wheels, like these (ignore the fact they are air-cooled VDub specilaists):
https://www.vwheritage.com/ac6019508...heels-vw-spare
3) Just use your current bolts - the wheels aren't going anywhere and will be seated properly on the hub as the have the same MINI 56.1 centre bores. Flame retardent trousers are to hand

To your earlier qustion, they often come with used tyres, which will not be run-flats, 205/45/17. Albeit they might be a rubbish brand and /or worn.
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2) Get a set of Wheel Bolt Washers to Convert Tapered to Radius Wheels, like these (ignore the fact they are air-cooled VDub specilaists):
https://www.vwheritage.com/ac6019508...heels-vw-spare
Thanks, I didn't know about this option. It looks like it'll need slightly longer bolts to work.
I quite like the 16" MG wheels, but can I find radius bolts in M14 (R56), nope, no way.

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Thanks, I didn't know about this option. It looks like it'll need slightly longer bolts to work. I quite like the 16" MG wheels, but can I find radius bolts in M14 (R56), nope, no way.
I didn't know about them either till I read your post Yes might need to be a bit longer.

Jim, are those 16"s the style they everyone seems to call 'hairpins'?

Are you wanting to fit to an (your?) R56, so need M14 x 1.5? I found them OK using Google.

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The MG alloys are radius seats. So to do it properly you really need these:
16 x M12 x 1.5, 28mm Thread, Radius Wheel Bolts. These are black, but they come in silver as well. £13.99 set of 16, free delivery.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16-x-M12-...AAAOSwNchaOti~
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Think I might have to buy a set, it will be nice to have a set of summer wheels/tyres

Just need to find somewhere to store them

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Jim, are those 16"s the style they everyone seems to call 'hairpins'?
Not sure what they're called, but these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-ZR-All...4AAOSwrW1amtnd

Oh, the R56 MINI uses M14x1.25 so quite hard to find in radius, plus the head might be too big to fit in the wheel anyway.
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Not sure what they're called, but these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-ZR-All...4AAOSwrW1amtnd

Oh, the R56 MINI uses M14x1.25 so quite hard to find in radius, plus the head might be too big to fit in the wheel anyway.
Those on the eBay link you posted are the 'Hairpins'. Think they only come in 16", not 17". They are quite pretty.

There are a load of either of these on eBay, all different lengths
M14 x 1.25 Radius Bolts
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_o...Bolts&_sacat=0

M14 x 1.25 Tapered Bolts
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_o...Bolts&_sacat=0

With respect to the R56s using M14 x 1.25 I've taken some pics which might help. That is a 22mm socket sitting in the MG ZR bolt hole and a not very good pic with a cheap vernier of the hole that the theaded part of the bolt goes through in the wheel - it is 15mm exactly, which is bigger than the holes through the OE S-Spokes I have. So if you measure a M14 x 1.25 you should know if they will work.
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