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R56 2009 Mini Cooper: Anything else I should know?

Hi folks, it’s been many a year since I last posted here when I picked up a beautiful new Park Lane in 2006. Three children and a Discovery 4 later, I’ve just bought an ‘09 Cooper Mayfair to cover short runs when everyone is at school. I absolutely adored the Park Lane and never forgot it, selling it five years later following an accident. In fact, seeing there are a few around, I very nearly bought one again but thought 13 years was a bit long in the tooth and believed I’d be better off to pay a bit more for an R56. Of course, it’s ***’s Law that between purchase and delivery (tomorrow) I’ve done a lot of reading here about timing chains and oil guzzling and realised I might have been better off with the Park Lane after all.

What I’d love to know from you experienced people is what I should do to keep the car happy and healthy. I don’t intend to sell it, it will become part of the family, and as such I want to maintain it as best I can. Apart from checking the oil often and using 5w30, and making sure the timing belt is changed next service, is there anything else I should do?

Thanks for any advice and please excuse my ignorance!

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Hi folks, it’s been many a year since I last posted here when I picked up a beautiful new Park Lane in 2006. Three children and a Discovery 4 later, I’ve just bought an ‘09 Cooper Mayfair to cover short runs when everyone is at school. I absolutely adored the Park Lane and never forgot it, selling it five years later following an accident. In fact, seeing there are a few around, I very nearly bought one again but thought 13 years was a bit long in the tooth and believed I’d be better off to pay a bit more for an R56. Of course, it’s ***’s Law that between purchase and delivery (tomorrow) I’ve done a lot of reading here about timing chains and oil guzzling and realised I might have been better off with the Park Lane after all.

What I’d love to know from you experienced people is what I should do to keep the car happy and healthy. I don’t intend to sell it, it will become part of the family, and as such I want to maintain it as best I can. Apart from checking the oil often and using 5w30, and making sure the timing belt is changed next service, is there anything else I should do?

Thanks for any advice and please excuse my ignorance!
Mileage is 65k, btw.

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I bought an R56 with the N12 chocolate engine with 55k on the clock almost a year ago, as in all other respects it was the car I wanted ...
So far it has failed to explode, or even use much oil (less than 100ml per 1k miles?).

As long as it doesn't rattle like a diesel at startup/tickover (in which case you should look to reject it) then you'll probably be fine. replacement chain/tensioner sounds like a good idea.

If yours has the stop/start function then you might want to get in to the habit of disabling it every time you start the engine - the only time(s) mine has stopped were with a bang/jolt when pulling away from lights having sat a couple of minutes with the engine fully warmed (not after after a short time idling, which might have been useful) & then not re-started without me pressing the start button.
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Hi,
I've had my R56 2013 JCW since April 2016. When I purchased it from my local Mini dealer it only has 12,300 miles on the clock.
It's now done 27,200 miles, I average 5,000 miles per year. I change the oil every 5,000 miles/12 months as I did in my last Mini, an R50.
It's been a joy to own, just had my first fault, the start/stop stopped working. This was due to a faulty vacuum sensor.
I don't use the start/stop, but I don't like things that should be working, not working! I'm OCD like that.
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Hi folks, itís been many a year since I last posted here when I picked up a beautiful new Park Lane in 2006. Three children and a Discovery 4 later, Iíve just bought an Ď09 Cooper Mayfair to cover short runs when everyone is at school. I absolutely adored the Park Lane and never forgot it, selling it five years later following an accident. In fact, seeing there are a few around, I very nearly bought one again but thought 13 years was a bit long in the tooth and believed Iíd be better off to pay a bit more for an R56. Of course, itís ***ís Law that between purchase and delivery (tomorrow) Iíve done a lot of reading here about timing chains and oil guzzling and realised I might have been better off with the Park Lane after all.

What Iíd love to know from you experienced people is what I should do to keep the car happy and healthy. I donít intend to sell it, it will become part of the family, and as such I want to maintain it as best I can. Apart from checking the oil often and using 5w30, and making sure the timing belt is changed next service, is there anything else I should do?

Thanks for any advice and please excuse my ignorance!
its not a timing belt its a timing chain that behaves like a timing belt it would seem, ie treat it as a serviceable item that needs changing i say 60k is its life, some travel to 100k rarely but the extra damage it does is a problem as eat the cat and 02 sensors as well as other deep issues within the bores from running retarded for so long, we have a couple of cooper s turbo cars that get treated like this very 60k timing chain replace and they are reliable, trouble with the chains stretching is it happens over time so the driver dont feel it, until they fit new chain and everyone i have every changed one for all say the same ho my god its fast again, it dont need to be making chain noises to be out of time , from when noises start it could be 10 minutes or 20.000 miles just cant tell, but when it does spin its chain its big bucks,
i have lost count the amount of chains i have done, mostly around the 60k mark and all have been out of time when locking tool has been installed,
as for the gen 1 cars its old hat now and they also suffer certain problems with head gasket and abs pumps for a past time etc, even rust around the back end.
did you know the prince engine won loads of prizes for design and emissions for a number of years,, that said their problem has always been the timing chain design its a shame as that engine in a Peugeot rcz makes 269bhp thats a lot for the size, just wish someone would design a higher tensile chain or a duplex type chain for them would solves most of its issues

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Hi,
I've had my R56 2013 JCW since April 2016. When I purchased it from my local Mini dealer it only has 12,300 miles on the clock.
It's now done 27,200 miles, I average 5,000 miles per year. I change the oil every 5,000 miles/12 months as I did in my last Mini, an R50.
It's been a joy to own, just had my first fault, the start/stop stopped working. This was due to a faulty vacuum sensor.
I don't use the start/stop, but I don't like things that should be working, not working! I'm OCD like that.
I change the oil every 5,000 miles/12 months,,,,, lesson to all as this is the best way forward with any engine ignore the makers poo that 20k is a good thing as its very much not saving anyone any money in the long run,
europarts do a 20 litre drum thats 4 gallons ish for around £45 no brainer can change oil 4 times on one drum with some left over, and its good oil low saps 5/30 works out £11.50 per gallon try buy good oil at that cost in 5 litre cans

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Thanks all for your replies - I’m learning fast...The car passed its MOT this morning and came straight to us. All seems well, it’s in beautiful condition, other than the air con isn’t blowing cold, which isn’t ideal on a day like this! I think with that and the timing chain in mind I’ll take it to a Mini specialist ASAP for a once over. We’re not far from Camberley where I’ve read here there’s a good one. Also I really need to get the hang of a manual gearbox again. In fact I need to get the hang of driving a Mini again; full stop. I’m turning heads for all the wrong reasons at the moment!

Thanks Mike1967 for taking the time to explain the timing chain business, that’s great to know.
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Thanks all for your replies - Iím learning fast...The car passed its MOT this morning and came straight to us. All seems well, itís in beautiful condition, other than the air con isnít blowing cold, which isnít ideal on a day like this! I think with that and the timing chain in mind Iíll take it to a Mini specialist ASAP for a once over. Weíre not far from Camberley where Iíve read here thereís a good one. Also I really need to get the hang of a manual gearbox again. In fact I need to get the hang of driving a Mini again; full stop. Iím turning heads for all the wrong reasons at the moment!

Thanks Mike1967 for taking the time to explain the timing chain business, thatís great to know.
its just something that many people outside the forums find out the hard way when all valves are bent and major engine work begins, and its something no one would search for normally as car sales people ie no mechanical understanding normally told customers when buying new that its a chain and life of engine and no cam belt expenses,, reality is it even more expensive, and its not just mini bmw Peugeot Citroen as they all use same engine,,, but all the vw audi skoda seat engines that use chains,, even nissan dont do that well anymore,

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