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My Cooper D Clubman has just turned 136,000 miles and it's still running on its original dpf!

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My Cooper D Clubman has just turned 136,000 miles and it's still running on its original dpf!

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thats impressive and very rare i would guess your mainly motorway mileage and no short start stop journeys and drive it hard helps it a bit and never let additive fluid run out or have a fault code logged in ecu for long as dpf wont regenerate if has any fault codes stored... or the last owner removed it and there is no way to tell with out looking in to exhaust, have you owner car from new if so what have you spent on it in that time, guess i'm more bias to stuff as seeing it all breaking all the time not just mini, its bmw mercedes honda not so much vag stuff but that is changing as their new updates because of the fiddling emissions cars will start to suffer soon. dpf dont suit driving low revs to get every last mpg out of a car, also cars that are mainly used short trips. everytime i speak to different companys who rebuild turbo's they all say thats our best seller turbo for 1.6 and 2.0 hdi engines,, also the return rates are as high as 50% due to people only replacing the turbo when it packs up,, not my words that was turbo technics and btn turbo, my point in last post was this, yes you could very well have the luck that your car will travel over 100k on nothing more than servicing,, but the odds are there are a lot more cars that dont for the reasons i described,, just thought people would want the heads up and a choice between if or when it all goes south that a few hundred pounds of preventive is normally cheaper than the very bad end result of new engine new turbo new dpf.. even min bmw and all the other car makers say your dpf should be replaced at 70.000 as a service item for a reason, and additive 40k

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My 2 Cooper D Clubmans live their entire life on the motorway and I'm the second owner on it. The first owner was just as stringent as me when it came to servicing and he halved the recommended service intervals, including the BMW ones. The car is a 2008 model and to date it has had 3398.02 spent on it with servicing and repairs, this includes the 864.30 that I've spent on it in my 2 years of ownership and he was like me and documented everything. I do all my own servicing and repairs and only fit top quality or oem parts. For a 9 year old car it's still returning 60MPG
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My 2 Cooper D Clubmans live their entire life on the motorway and I'm the second owner on it. The first owner was just as stringent as me when it came to servicing and he halved the recommended service intervals, including the BMW ones. The car is a 2008 model and to date it has had 3398.02 spent on it with servicing and repairs, this includes the 864.30 that I've spent on it in my 2 years of ownership and he was like me and documented everything. I do all my own servicing and repairs and only fit top quality or oem parts. For a 9 year old car it's still returning 60MPG
thats the difference your like me with our cars preventive servicing is a must. the motorway cars that just bang out a journey at high revs over a period of time will only try to regen 10% of the time due to exhaust pressure and heat.. the trouble comes when filter gets blocked and you keep driving un till limp mode comes over and over see it all the time killed turbo diesel over run another customer blaming the poor car that has warned him for past 6 months its not happy, one thing i would say and of course i could not recommend it as it is a mot failure is cars with removed dpf filters and the ecu remapped to suit,, i have driven a few of these and they are so much better to drive, responsive like when the car was new from factory,, just shows how much dpf restricts the flow,
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Indeed Mike, preventative maintenance is the key to good motoring. The dpf really does strangle modern cars but I'm at an age where I'm not in a hurry to get somewhere and the Coopers perform perfect for me. I keep a full record on a spreadsheet of everything I've done to the cars, the only stamps in my books are from the TLC packages the cars had when new and garages the former keepers have used. When I ever sell my cars I just print out the sheet and offer the new keeper the digital copy of the sheet if they wish.
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Indeed Mike, preventative maintenance is the key to good motoring. The dpf really does strangle modern cars but I'm at an age where I'm not in a hurry to get somewhere and the Coopers perform perfect for me. I keep a full record on a spreadsheet of everything I've done to the cars, the only stamps in my books are from the TLC packages the cars had when new and garages the former keepers have used. When I ever sell my cars I just print out the sheet and offer the new keeper the digital copy of the sheet if they wish.
i normally buy a car these days that needs work on it, just bought a 58-reg clubman cooper d 104k got full mini service history really nice spec with dvd in the roof and privacy glass etc, 2000 it had done there party trick dpf got blocked so owner just kept driving in limp mode until the turbo let go and it went in to diesel over run and killed its self. stuck a crank in it secondhand head honed bores new piston rings new turbo and pipes oil pump infact used a head off a ford focus 1.6 hdi etc basically as moving parts replaced, stands me in 2600 but has a rebuilt engine that i know is very good.. i bought car with a reciept for a brand new garrett turbo fitted 1000 miles ago by last owner,, but within 1000 miles it had ruined another one just because they had not fitted it correctly and not changed the dpf filter,
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i normally buy a car these days that needs work on it, just bought a 58-reg clubman cooper d 104k got full mini service history really nice spec with dvd in the roof and privacy glass etc, 2000 it had done there party trick dpf got blocked so owner just kept driving in limp mode until the turbo let go and it went in to diesel over run and killed its self. stuck a crank in it secondhand head honed bores new piston rings new turbo and pipes oil pump infact used a head off a ford focus 1.6 hdi etc basically as moving parts replaced, stands me in 2600 but has a rebuilt engine that i know is very good.. i bought car with a reciept for a brand new garrett turbo fitted 1000 miles ago by last owner,, but within 1000 miles it had ruined another one just because they had not fitted it correctly and not changed the dpf filter,
I was really lucky when I bought my Cooper D Clubman as it was a trade sale and the car was mechanically mint. The bonnet did let it down and the dealer agreed to respray it free of charge as it was quite badly stone chipped. A few months after I got the car I noticed lots of tiny dimples all around the body and the barn doors were bubbling at the handles so I took the car in to BMW and they resprayed it from the front doors back under the 12 year warranty program. The drivers side door was apparently badly rotten on the inside due to a failed seal and as a result the entire door was renewed so I basically got a full respray for free and damaged trim replaced! The car is now minted
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I was really lucky when I bought my Cooper D Clubman as it was a trade sale and the car was mechanically mint. The bonnet did let it down and the dealer agreed to respray it free of charge as it was quite badly stone chipped. A few months after I got the car I noticed lots of tiny dimples all around the body and the barn doors were bubbling at the handles so I took the car in to BMW and they resprayed it from the front doors back under the 12 year warranty program. The drivers side door was apparently badly rotten on the inside due to a failed seal and as a result the entire door was renewed so I basically got a full respray for free and damaged trim replaced! The car is now minted
think next year i will do flywheel and clutch as have a little vibration from dual mass flywheel i've also dropped a stage one map on it with a few dpf and egr changes its on another level, joys of working in motor trade and access to mapping tools. i can drive car all day long now revs between 1000-2000 revs get over 70 mpg showing and never get dpf limp mode or regens stealing from my wallet,
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Hi Guys,

Just an update on my Injectors removal challenge, managed to take them all out and replace all the seal's. However one of the copper washers is stuck to the bottom and isn't moving..! Any ideas? Ive tried the old thin wire with a bend in it, i just don't seem to be able to get it moving, not sure if i should just leave it in, it looks okay from what i can see, i just don't want to damage it without being able to take it out if hat makes sense....

Any ideas? Also any cleaning suggestions of the injectors would be very much appreciated.

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Hi Guys,

Just an update on my Injectors removal challenge, managed to take them all out and replace all the seal's. However one of the copper washers is stuck to the bottom and isn't moving..! Any ideas? Ive tried the old thin wire with a bend in it, i just don't seem to be able to get it moving, not sure if i should just leave it in, it looks okay from what i can see, i just don't want to damage it without being able to take it out if hat makes sense....

Any ideas? Also any cleaning suggestions of the injectors would be very much appreciated.

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NEILSEN DAMAGED INJECTOR WASHER REMOVAL TOOL SEAL EXTRACTOR GASKET PULLER | eBay

, the above link. or what i do is use a large flat screw driver and small hammer and tap screw driver down in to hole keeping downwards pressure and turn screw driver at same time once the seals starts to turn, in the hole can hook it out, or a dab of sealer on end of a piece of wire let it go hard and lift it out, i have the above tool but never use it
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Hi Mike,

Thank you done exactly as you said and the washer came out Top man...!

Another question, What is the actual thickness of the copper washer required? The ones i took out are about 2.5mm thick??

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Hi SeanC,

Sorry to bother you again,

Do you know what thickness in the Copper washer needed for the Injectors? Is it crucial for it to be exact certain thickness?

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I don't know the thickness but I wouldn't be too bothered as they are only really seals
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How did the injector leak repair go?

I am having a similar problem with a second hand mini - given how knowledgeable the owner was about the engine being peugoet and parts cheaper to buy from Pergeot - it seems they sold me a car knowing full well the turbo was at the end of its days. Its off to the garage :-(

update - specialist says its not turbo, problem found to be blocked windshield drainage duct, overflow was leaking over turbo and causing white smoke only after long motorway drives and if there had been a lot of rain plus car parked down-hill.

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