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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old Jan 25th, 2017, 08:24 PM Thread Starter
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Cambelt snapped tonight on Mini C D 2011 REG

So annoyed - on way home my mini's engine cut out and just rolled to a stop.
Luckily I was on a quiet road and managed to just pull over however would not re-start - the engine just churned over.
Green Flag came out and confirmed it was the cambelt and the pistons were not working at all......
I am absolutely gutted and extremely worried my car is a write off......
Green Flag confirmed this is a problem with BMW as the belt can become slack and fall off the cambelt?
I have over the last year mentioned to garages the car was making a chugging noise and no one picked up on the cambelt - they mentioned it possibly being cold.

Is the cambelt fixable?
Is this a common problem?
I do not have any warrently on the car as I bought it 2nd hand and have always looked after it.
Can anyone give me an idea of prices to fix it if possible....
If not fixable do people buy mini's with broken cambelts?

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The Green Flag guy is talking shyte. Its NOT a common problem and its NOT a BMW engine either. Your car has the Peugeot Hdi engine and at best all you should need to change will be the water pump, tensioner, cam belt, alternator belt and if your really unlucky a couple of cam followers (a few quid each) I don't think the valves bend on these engines.

What sort of mileage is on the car anyway? Your belt ideally should have been done at 100,000 miles or last year if its a 2007 model! I recently squeezed 134,000 miles out of my original belt (2008 Clubman) before changing the pump/ belt/ tensioner and alternator belt. When buying the belt only buy a Gates belt NOTHING ELSE!

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I think I've misread your post, if its a 2011 model then it is a BMW engine. I thought I read 2007 in the title. If that's the case then I can't comment on the BMW engines as I don't run them.

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2011 cooper D? They have timing chains not belts.
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Creepy is correct.... if it is a 2011 Cooper D... it already has the BMW N47 engine, and it has timing chains, not belt. It is also correct that the N47 engine is more than known to fail due to timing chain problems, mostly on BMW, but also in Mini. You must be alert to a metalic irregular grinding noise, it can be heard even on idle, it grows with rpm (at 1500rpm it gets very audible) and that tends to be more and more noticeable before the failure.

I have a BMW with N47 engine and I have a Cooper D with N47 engine so i know what i am talking about....got that problem sorted in my BMW, and I am very alert to that in my Mini....

When it comes to timing chain failure on these engines, it really depends on how you were running when it snapped.... but unfortunately those are really bad news.... usually a rebuild new engine is the most afordable solution.... anyway get that checked by a good mechanic (if you can get to a BMW specialist - not a dealer - that would be great, they really know this issue). Maybe you were lucky enough to get only a few parts changed, and not a catastrophic failure....
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I think your all wrong the n47 is a 2.0litre fitted to the Cooper sd. Cooper diesels have a 1.6 engine made by Peugeot
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I think your all wrong the n47 is a 2.0litre fitted to the Cooper sd. Cooper diesels have a 1.6 engine made by Peugeot
It's still an N47N engine. which is chain driven. So minionept is correct.
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Wrong again i`m afraid n47 1.6 diesel wasn`t introduced until 2012/3 so definatley not fitted to the Cooper D in 2011 Can`t post urls yet but do a wiki search and the facts are there.
N47D16 1.6 L (1598 cc/98 in³) 16.5:1 70 kW (95 bhp) @ 4000 rpm 235 N m (173 lb ft) @ 1500 - 2750 rpm 2013
85 kW (116 bhp) @ 4000 rpm 260 N m (192 lb ft) @ 1750 - 2500 rpm 2012
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Wrong again i`m afraid n47 1.6 diesel wasn`t introduced until 2012/3 so definatley not fitted to the Cooper D in 2011 Can`t post urls yet but do a wiki search and the facts are there.
N47D16 1.6 L (1598 cc/98 in³) 16.5:1 70 kW (95 bhp) @ 4000 rpm 235 N m (173 lb ft) @ 1500 - 2750 rpm 2013
85 kW (116 bhp) @ 4000 rpm 260 N m (192 lb ft) @ 1750 - 2500 rpm 2012
Well somebody is wrong? According to this it was available in 2009.


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Wrong again i`m afraid n47 1.6 diesel wasn`t introduced until 2012/3 so definatley not fitted to the Cooper D in 2011 Can`t post urls yet but do a wiki search and the facts are there.
N47D16 1.6 L (1598 cc/98 in³) 16.5:1 70 kW (95 bhp) @ 4000 rpm 235 N m (173 lb ft) @ 1500 - 2750 rpm 2013
85 kW (116 bhp) @ 4000 rpm 260 N m (192 lb ft) @ 1750 - 2500 rpm 2012


Third post down ..The owner has just had his chain replaced in their BMW. same family of engine N47.

N47N chain -

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I think your all wrong the n47 is a 2.0litre fitted to the Cooper sd. Cooper diesels have a 1.6 engine made by Peugeot
I'm only correcting you to raise awareness, however your statement above is not correct for all Cooper diesels.

If your car is an automatic Cooper D of a certain age then rather than the 1.6 PSA engine it is fitted with the 2.0 N47 (however it's detuned from the 2.0 N47 in the SD, I think the engine number is N47T ?). Search Auto Trader for Cooper D's from 2011 then compare the engine size of the manual and automatic transmissions.
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