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The chrome surrounds will fit - the complete aero grille will not.
So the chrome surrounds and the aero grille (the grille bit ) will fit?

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Show how the heck do you make the black surrounds fit then?

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Show how the heck do you make the black surrounds fit then?
I think that is what Jon is trying to say, the Black surrounds wont fit the standard ONE/Cooper bumpers...
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I think that is what Jon is trying to say, the Black surrounds wont fit the standard ONE/Cooper bumpers...
But the Chrome & black surrounds both fit the Aero bumper....the plot indeed thickens! (See Scoobydoos Cooper)

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But the Chrome & black surrounds both fit the Aero bumper....the plot indeed thickens! (See Scoobydoos Cooper)
I think it's a plot by MINI to make people by the JCW Kit.

It's a bit like the standard side scuttles, they have made them look horrible (my opinion) so people by the new JCW side scuttles and Clubman side scuttles.
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But the Chrome & black surrounds both fit the Aero bumper....the plot indeed thickens! (See Scoobydoos Cooper)
There may well be a variation of black surrounds available for Cooper/One but as far as I know, they only fit the S and Aero S bumpers.

Jo, you need to specifically ask for the Cooper D aero grille (although it is the same as the S) as the Cooper/One grille is a slightly different shape to the D and S grille. The Aero grille can certainly be fitted to the D and I think you can use your exisitng chrome surround. If in doubt, ask the dealer if he'll give you a refund if it doesn't work - afterall its the least they could do considering your purchasing a highly specced car from them.


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Jo, you need to specifically ask for the Cooper D aero grille (although it is the same as the S) as the Cooper/One grille is a slightly different shape to the D and S grille. The Aero grille can certainly be fitted to the D and I think you can use your exisitng chrome surround. If in doubt, ask the dealer if he'll give you a refund if it doesn't work - afterall its the least they could do considering your purchasing a highly specced car from them.
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Thanks to Hickster for the information on the Cooper D.

I'm still confused though: Is what Jo and others are calling the 'Aero' grill actually the JCW grill? The Aero grill (as fitted with the Aero kit) is a black 3-louvre version designed to be sprayed the body colour.

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The JCW grill looks a bit like the S grill (with rounded holes), and can also have the black upper and lower parts instead of chrome.

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Have I just got it completely wrong? Can someone clarify this?
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Thanks to Hickster for the information on the Cooper D.

I'm still confused though: Is what Jo and others are calling the 'Aero' grill actually the JCW grill? The Aero grill (as fitted with the Aero kit) is a black 3-louvre version designed to be sprayed the body colour.

https://www.mini2.com/forum/attachmen...4&d=1189716534

The JCW grill looks a bit like the S grill (with rounded holes), and can also have the black upper and lower parts instead of chrome.

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Have I just got it completely wrong? Can someone clarify this?
There's two Aero Kits - the MINI Aero Kit, and the JCW Aero Kit.....

The one you refer to with the bar grille is the MINI aero kit.... the one with the black surround and black honeycomb centre is the JCW Aero grille.
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I think this is what you want. You need a Cooper S or Cooper D JCW Aero grill and the bottom chrome trim from a Cooper S. It does fit but not quite as the standard bumper is narrower than the Aero bumper and it does scratch the bumper when you fit it and the chrome trim can come loose.

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Thanks to Hickster for the information on the Cooper D.

I'm still confused though: Is what Jo and others are calling the 'Aero' grill actually the JCW grill? The Aero grill (as fitted with the Aero kit) is a black 3-louvre version designed to be sprayed the body colour.

https://www.mini2.com/forum/attachmen...4&d=1189716534

The JCW grill looks a bit like the S grill (with rounded holes), and can also have the black upper and lower parts instead of chrome.

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Have I just got it completely wrong? Can someone clarify this?
Me and Jo are on about the JCW Aero Grille (which is the same or very very similar to the standard S Grille)
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Did you get the grille off eBay or from MINI?
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Surely if its all fitting in to the same place the shapes should be the same provided you've got the right parts...

i.e the Cooper Chrome Grille and Cooper Aero Grille should be the same shape or the Dooper Chrome Grille and Dooper Aero Grille should be the same shape?

Nope - the aero grill is a different shape and the holes where the grill fits in are in defferent places and there is a lip on the riginal chrome grill where is recesses into the chrome grill, but on the aero gril it fits almost flush.


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I'm going to check this tomorrow as I still have all my old bits and it's a doddle to whip the grille off again and try it out for real.


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I think this is what you want. You need a Cooper S or Cooper D JCW Aero grill and the bottom chrome trim from a Cooper S. It does fit but not quite as the standard bumper is narrower than the Aero bumper and it does scratch the bumper when you fit it and the chrome trim can come loose.
I have to say the fitting of the bottom surround looks very iffy on your pic


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Right....... to clarify whats on my car (and yes the pics in Jo's first post are both of my MINI).

I had the JCW bodykit fitted along with, of course the honeycombe grille and the black surrounds. I then decided that I didn't like the look of the black surround so I took those off and put back on the chrome surrounds from the original Cooper grille.

Also the black surround that I took off......... I sold to another R56 owner who fitted them to his original grille. So he now has the opposite of me - a chrome Cooper grille with black JCW surrounds oh and BTW he doesn't have the JCW front bumper.

So yes you can swap quite easily between the JCW grille and surrounds and the standard Cooper grille and surround and all items fit both the original Cooper bumper and the JCW front bumper.
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