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2008 Mini Cooper S running on 3 cylinders

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Hi everyone,

I hope all of you are well and your close ones too.

I write this post on behalf of a friend of mine who owns a Mini. I'm doing this for him as he doesn't speak English.

His 2008 Mini Cooper S has been running on 3 cylinders at every engine start-up for the last 4 months. The engine starts on 3 cylinders (only when the engine is cold) and after 10 seconds the 4th cylinder activates itself.

He has changed many parts, such as:

  • 4 new injectors (+ injector rail)
  • 4 new spark plugs
  • 4 new engine coils
  • Air intake pressure sensor changed
  • New water pump
  • New catalyser
  • New turbo hose
  • New oil exchanger gasket
  • Accessory belts changed
  • Engine oil change
  • New engine gaskets
  • New fuel filter
  • New engine oil temperature sensor
  • New radiator oil expansion bottle (+ hose)
  • Camshaft checked
  • All electrical relays checked
  • Electric harness checked
  • Automatic starter works
  • No power loss

And that's it.

Any ideas/thoughts would be much appreciated. 馃檪

Thomas.
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So there is no code.
You might want to invest in a:
And try to extract a code.
misfire could be something like the timing chain going out. Another thing if it has high mileage it would be good to get a compression check on the cylinder in question. You could have a sticky valve in that cylinder chamber, due to soot buildup.
Is the Catalytic a genuine mini cooper catalytic convertor? Other stuff on the market tends to pride themselves on the idea that they are as strict on emissions as the original, but usually turns out they are more plugged up than the original(gives them a excuse).
The brand of your spark plug has a lot to do with it. The other day here we were all talking about how NGK has really good knock off(fake) NGK brand spark plugs on the market. Also it is during a time where they have finally phased out iridium plugs in the general sense in the turbo mini coopers. The brand of spark plug they are running would be important to know. As that can lead to a no fire situation. With 3 cylinder firing upon start up and no 4th cylinder. Really makes me wonder if it really does have 4 cylinders firing while driving down the road.
Swapping the coils around might be a good Idea. It's not likely all 4 old coils were bad hopefully you saved them; as you can swap out 1 coil at a time and not all 4 keeping some of the old ones in there. If it's not broke don't fix it. I know I tried that once. And I love buying new stuff for my mini cooper, but on the stock end of things; It almost demands you only change out the bad coil or coils one at a time. Swapping them out. I had a cylinder misfire years ago before I rebuilt the engine. That misfired cylinder I swapped with a coil from a good firing cylinders coil, and then put the new coil on the good cylinder that was firing. I too would love to replace all four coils boom!! Not saying you cannot do that. But sometimes new coils are bad, right out of the brand new box. To this day I still only replace one coil at a time for that reason. I only buy 2 coils at most at a time. For the most part I just buy one new one at a time. And just keep an extra.
There are a lot of moving parts in your problem here. I will wiegh in as things go. In the meantime I would probably check the timing of the engine with a camshaft and crankshaft locking set.
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I have this one also
but that first one is cheap and I would just do a camshaft crankshaft check using the cheap camshaft lock set for now.
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I have circled in green the area in question on the cheap camshaft locking set that needs to be cut in order for that part of the tool to clear the turbo charger. cut at the red broken line.
aside of that I would need feedback on that. or some sort of code. perhaps it is hidden. Or proof that under different abstract backgrounds that the cylinder that your referring to is not running under any type of guise; whether it be different brand spark plugs and other coil packs. Pulling the plastic intake manifold off may be good at this point to see the soot build up in the cylinder in question. Also listening to any strange noises coming from the engine like ticking or knocking. Would help to solve this problem.
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Hi everyone,

I hope all of you are well and your close ones too.

I write this post on behalf of a friend of mine who owns a Mini. I'm doing this for him as he doesn't speak English.

His 2008 Mini Cooper S has been running on 3 cylinders at every engine start-up for the last 4 months. The engine starts on 3 cylinders (only when the engine is cold) and after 10 seconds the 4th cylinder activates itself.

He has changed many parts, such as:

  • 4 new injectors (+ injector rail)
  • 4 new spark plugs
  • 4 new engine coils
  • Air intake pressure sensor changed
  • New water pump
  • New catalyser
  • New turbo hose
  • New oil exchanger gasket
  • Accessory belts changed
  • Engine oil change
  • New engine gaskets
  • New fuel filter
  • New engine oil temperature sensor
  • New radiator oil expansion bottle (+ hose)
  • Camshaft checked
  • All electrical relays checked
  • Electric harness checked
  • Automatic starter works
  • No power loss

And that's it.

Any ideas/thoughts would be much appreciated. 馃檪

Thomas.
common for valve seats to be carbon up and will cause that,, if were timing chain would be all cylinders, need to remove inlet manifold and exhaust manifold and rocker cover let all 4 valves on misfire cylinder closed and add compressed air to that spark plug hole while spraying wd40 or i use seafoam in each port and look for bubbles is best way to know for sure,, lost count the amount of these i have done like this
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Thanks for the suggestions. I asked my friend and he ran a diagnostic, but no errors showed up. Everything is normal.

I'll let you know if we find anything.
common for valve seats to be carbon up and will cause that,, if were timing chain would be all cylinders, need to remove inlet manifold and exhaust manifold and rocker cover let all 4 valves on misfire cylinder closed and add compressed air to that spark plug hole while spraying wd40 or i use seafoam in each port and look for bubbles is best way to know for sure,, lost count the amount of these i have done like this
That sounds like a wonderful method. That's why were all here on this forum to help out. Because when a problem occurs, at least for me. If puts me in a tizzle, and although I can research. doing it with a fresh set of eye's and without any impending problems makes it so much more efficient.
Reason why I like that answer is that is direct. Most likely if one is careful they would not have to put it in the radiator service position(still a tight area). But in the end one can figure that out with BOTH manifolds off in a 1 hour. Great work Mike!
If everything checks out then they can move on to the other area's for inspection or repair.
One more thing, just from my own experience rebuilding my engine(me and the machinist:)). When I got to the number 4 cylinder; the old rings measured at .045 maybe even a little over. where the others were around .038. So it can happen that way with compression loss in one cylinder, while the others are in a relatively bad state but still working fine.
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That sounds like a wonderful method. That's why were all here on this forum to help out. Because when a problem occurs, at least for me. If puts me in a tizzle, and although I can research. doing it with a fresh set of eye's and without any impending problems makes it so much more efficient.
Reason why I like that answer is that is direct. Most likely if one is careful they would not have to put it in the radiator service position(still a tight area). But in the end one can figure that out with BOTH manifolds off in a 1 hour. Great work Mike!
If everything checks out then they can move on to the other area's for inspection or repair.
One more thing, just from my own experience rebuilding my engine(me and the machinist:)). When I got to the number 4 cylinder; the old rings measured at .045 maybe even a little over. where the others were around .038. So it can happen that way with compression loss in one cylinder, while the others are in a relatively bad state but still working fine.
i spend over 60 hours a week working on cars have done all my life its my job and something i have always been in to even when i was a kid i would repair bikes and dads cars etc so everything i have learnt is all stuff i have done and know how to do,, sometimes a copy a link just because o dont want to spend a day typing it out etc to help someone,, i do this for free i have been on this forum for over 3 years and over 7000 posts and counting,,, which i do for free garages charge my time out at 拢80 per hour one thing i stick to is i dont answer a posts on a job i have never repair or have a understanding of ,, ie if i dont no for sure i will learn it before answering it,,
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