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Hi Everyone!

Thought I'd sign up as my wife and I put a deposit down on our first mini over the weekend and we're due to collect it on Thursday.
The car will be for my wife, as she needs something larger, newer and more reliable than her current 2004 VW Beetle.

We came across a 1.6l petrol (non turbo) Mini Clubman on Autotrader and I went to look at it last week.
The clubman would be a perfect size for my wife too as we have a new member joining us soon and the car is much more accessible than her current Beetle.
I believe these are the R55 mini?

This one seemed in good condition with just a cover missing over a vanity mirror.
The car had a mere 75k on the clock (I'm never really discouraged by high milers, anything less than 100k is good in my eyes) and came with some extensive service history with it.
I was surprised to find it'd had the timing chain replaced at 52k and a new clutch at the same time.
Then the clutch has been replaced again at 72k (not sure why the other one only lasted such a short amount of time).
It's only this last month had two new front shocks & springs too.


So it seemed well looked after so I put a deposit down with the promise it would have a fresh MOT put on it.

Now having got home and done a bit more research about these cars I've discovered these engines ('Prince' engines) are prone to issues with the timing chains which is probably why this one has been replaced.
I'm not sure what engine exactly would be in this model? N14/N16/N18?
To try help prevent any such issues, I'll be ensuring it is serviced myself every 5-7k (as it will be within a few weeks of us buying it)
I can't say I noticed any 'death rattle' from the engine when I went to look at it/drive it, but I'll be double checking before we drive it away on Thursday.

Would anyone advise against buying one of these petrol engines?
Having done my research since putting the deposit down I'm growing more and more concerned about it.

If the timing chain does need replacing, is this a DIY job that can be done at home (with the correct locking tools etc) as I've done a couple of timing belts before?

I was at first excited to be getting our first mini, now I'm more apprehensive. Sort of hoping someone on here will put my mind at rest! :serious:


Anyway, sorry for the long intro post, thought I'd add it all here rather than just say hi then make another new thread!
 

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What year is the Clubman? If it's a later one, I think from 2010 onwards, it shouldn't have a timing chain issue (that's what I was told by my Mini specialist). The N14 does suffer with the "death rattle", but if the chain and tensioner has already been done, then you should be ok. Keep an eye on the oil level and keep it serviced and you should be good.
I had a 2007 R56 with around 60k and that had the timing tensioner changed before I bought it and I never had any issues, but I only owned it for a year .

I've now got a 2010 Clubman S

I'm pretty sure it's an engine out job for the timing chain, as it's on the back of the engine (if I remember correctly, they were supposed to last the lifetime of the engine)

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Hi BUbba,

Sorry, that would have helped.

The car is 2008.

From my Googling I believe they are Citroen/Peugeot 'Prince' engines with timing chains on the drivers side of the engine (so luckily should be changeable with the engine in the car) as far as I understand it.
 

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What year is the Clubman? If it's a later one, I think from 2010 onwards, it shouldn't have a timing chain issue (that's what I was told by my Mini specialist). The N14 does suffer with the "death rattle", but if the chain and tensioner has already been done, then you should be ok. Keep an eye on the oil level and keep it serviced and you should be good.
I had a 2007 R56 with around 60k and that had the timing tensioner changed before I bought it and I never had any issues, but I only owned it for a year .

I've now got a 2010 Clubman S

I'm pretty sure it's an engine out job for the timing chain, as it's on the back of the engine (if I remember correctly, they were supposed to last the lifetime of the engine)

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below is a link for timing chain full kit for n18 n16 n14 engines this kit fits all of them and remove one vanos sprocket will fit early cooper s its also same kit for all Peugeot citrons,, i only point this out to people that the same kit fits all the same kit that is no different in any of these engines,, i would ask the mini specialist can he explain how adding a vanos sprocket and changing engine number to n18 would cure the exactly same timing chain kits,, ie the issue with these timing chains is the narrow chain made out of a metal that wears out, i would suspect said mini specialist might be selling mini's and would not want anyone to think they still have to have chains replacing maybe, or they are so expensive to have a chain done that no one would dare ask perhaps. just to be clear the chain wear issue ie stretching of chain is no where near cured on any of them including the diesels,, whats really happening is the newer cars are only just starting to come forward with same problems as before they were to new and warranty would cover it up, i've seen loads with same sort of mileages with same chain stretched,, and to be honest the n18 has even more load on the chain with twin vanos sprockets that are sprung loaded and oil pressure fed ie 70-100psi, the life time of engine was a load of lies they now say 100.000 miles service item, vw do the same 80-100k recommend chain change as service item,, even the n47 diesels they are saying round 100k.
anyone buying any car with a timing chain these days thinking its better and can drive as hard as want and it will last the life pof the engine are totally mistaken and still living back in the 1990s when bmw had the m50 engine with duplex chains ie 325tds i owned a number of them all were mapped all were driven very hard all over 200k never had a chain issue with any of them, in fact seen them with 500,000 miles taxi still running right,
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Timing-C...m=142519254351&_trksid=p2045573.c101006.m3226
 
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