here are a couple of IB threads... http://www.northamericanmotoring.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpBB_14&file=index&action=viewtopic&topic=15353&51 http://www.northamericanmotoring.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpBB_14&file=index&action=viewtopic&topic=20804 http://www.mini2.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16731&highlight=Indie Others too....