Autocom Diagnostics

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Sam Tinky

Discussion Starter · Nov 9, 2020

So I ordered the Autocom kit that Mike1967 highlighted below, mainly to use on this 2010 Cooper D as the Foxwell can only get me so far.

mike1967 said:
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I paid extra for express shipping to the UK so it was a bit disappointing that the seller took 8 days before shipping it. I guess they buy them in themselves once they get an order, anyway it turned up today! Oh and I had to pay duty on the order before DHL would deliver it.

I wasn’t really sure what to expect with this bit of kit but for the money it seemed worth the risk.
Here’s what arrived:

The software installed easily on a laptop, the hardware device itself needs drivers installin so needs powering up via the OBD lead plugged into a vehicle and connected to the laptop via the supplied USB lead.
This model is also Bluetooth enabled but I have only tried the USB lead up to now.

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Sam Tinky

Discussion Starter · #2 · Nov 9, 2020

The device appears to have memory card slot under the the rubber end cover that also covers the USB type B socket.
Connecting it up to the Cooper and entering the vehicle details from the options was straightforward and a scan brought up the EGR error code that I knew would be there.
The car has had a new valve fitted by the previous owner but the adaptations haven’t been reset for the new valve. I’m not sure if this is the reason for the re-occurring error but it needed doing.

With the EGR fault cleared I reset the EGR teach-in values which is what they appear to be called and all seems well.

Hopefully I will have more time at the weekend to explore what this tool can do.

mike1967

· #3 · Nov 10, 2020

the duty is anew one on me i have ordered a lot of stuff off there must be new thing now the customs dont have people to deal with at ports etc, i know the long postage is a pain some sellers offer faster postage, its possible to buy them from uk sellers but a lot more money, glad its done the job you needed as said it would, live data runs that are possible with it is really good helps to find out whats doing what, you can also reset dpf and force regen etc code injectors etc,

Sam Tinky

Discussion Starter · #4 · Nov 10, 2020

I flicked through a few of the options last night and used the live data utility. The Foxwell I have does the same so it’s handy to see the values drop off when the problems arise.

I’m trying to tackle one symptom/ fault code at a time.
The glow plug relay was ruled out, the glow plugs replaced, now the EGR/ECU has been taught to play nicely together.....
I’m not sure if running the car with the new EGR out of whack would have damaged it?
The diagnostic software allows me to control the EGR but I couldn’t tell the difference when I did this with or without the engine running and am not sure if the software actually did anything no change in engine tone or rpm and no clicks when it was not running.
I do know from the live data that the EGR seems to be working 99% of the time and the intermittent fault (lack of acceleration) only lasts for a few seconds (live data zero’s out).
Makes me think there is a break in the connection between ECU and EGR of another sensor is failing.

I also replaced the air box yesterday as it had broken lugs leaky joints and missing rubber mountings so was rattling around and although probably not the cause of much it just wasn’t right.

Hopefully be able to spend some daylight hours on this over the next few days and explore this software some more.

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Ggsumo

· #5 · Nov 10, 2020

Sam Tinky said:
So I ordered the Autocom kit that Mike1967 highlighted below, mainly to use on this 2010 Cooper D as the Foxwell can only get me so far.

I paid extra for express shipping to the UK so it was a bit disappointing that the seller took 8 days before shipping it. I guess they buy them in themselves once they get an order, anyway it turned up today! Oh and I had to pay duty on the order before DHL would deliver it.

I wasn’t really sure what to expect with this bit of kit but for the money it seemed worth the risk.
Here’s what arrived:

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The software installed easily on a laptop, the hardware device itself needs drivers installin so needs powering up via the OBD lead plugged into a vehicle and connected to the laptop via the supplied USB lead.
This model is also Bluetooth enabled but I have only tried the USB lead up to now.

Sam how much did it work out including duty and currency exchange please

mike1967

· #6 · Nov 10, 2020

Sam Tinky said:
I flicked through a few of the options last night and used the live data utility. The Foxwell I have does the same so it’s handy to see the values drop off when the problems arise.

I’m trying to tackle one symptom/ fault code at a time.
The glow plug relay was ruled out, the glow plugs replaced, now the EGR/ECU has been taught to play nicely together.....
I’m not sure if running the car with the new EGR out of whack would have damaged it?
The diagnostic software allows me to control the EGR but I couldn’t tell the difference when I did this with or without the engine running and am not sure if the software actually did anything no change in engine tone or rpm and no clicks when it was not running.
I do know from the live data that the EGR seems to be working 99% of the time and the intermittent fault (lack of acceleration) only lasts for a few seconds (live data zero’s out).
Makes me think there is a break in the connection between ECU and EGR of another sensor is failing.

I also replaced the air box yesterday as it had broken lugs leaky joints and missing rubber mountings so was rattling around and although probably not the cause of much it just wasn’t right.

Hopefully be able to spend some daylight hours on this over the next few days and explore this software some more.

the ecu chooses when egr valve is open and closed depending on engine load and temps and revs etc, running around with faulty of not working egr will effect the dpf filter ie blocked it up with soot, ford and volvo use same engine ie psa diesel they include the dpf filter as a service item at 75000 miles, you can buy just lower element off ebay for £120 ish then when fitted would use autocom to reset the ecu ie tell it there is a new filter fitted and ecu will reset its adaptations and pressure sensor info, also some cheap egr valves off ebay are rubbish and dont well enough,, i have been caught out by that myself once

Sam Tinky

Discussion Starter · #7 · Nov 10, 2020

Ggsumo said:
Sam how much did it work out including duty and currency exchange please

£39.96 inc express delivery plus £4.55 duty/tax paid to DHL.
It took a week for the seller to despatch it and another 6 days to get here.
If sent by standard delivery it probs would have slipped through without duty....

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mike1967

· #8 · Nov 10, 2020

Sam Tinky said:
£39.96 inc express delivery plus £4.55 duty/tax paid to DHL.
It took a week for the seller to despatch it and another 6 days to get here.
If sent by standard delivery it probs would have slipped through without duty....

i say i always order stuff on long post for free and have never paid any duty on anything, its DHL with their hand in your pocket, i ordered one for a mate of mine the other day and that was 3 weeks on my door step, even then its still so cheap when compare it with other gear like for like functions,, i also have access to all kinds of diagnostics tools from garages i do work for ie £2k plus tools and that autocom with cars from 1996 to 2013 ish its very nearly as good on most stuff, when you think £50 gets a very basic hand held fit for nothing,, no point just having the codes its the live data and reference points needed on some of it that helps,

Ggsumo

· #9 · Nov 10, 2020

mike1967 said:
i say i always order stuff on long post for free and have never paid any duty on anything, its DHL with their hand in your pocket, i ordered one for a mate of mine the other day and that was 3 weeks on my door step, even then its still so cheap when compare it with other gear like for like functions,, i also have access to all kinds of diagnostics tools from garages i do work for ie £2k plus tools and that autocom with cars from 1996 to 2013 ish its very nearly as good on most stuff, when you think £50 gets a very basic hand held fit for nothing,, no point just having the codes its the live data and reference points needed on some of it that helps,

I am definitely toying with it. Used an ebay £5 obd2 Elm reader that I’ve had years at the weekend which worked fine for reading pcodes, clearing them and switching off the engine light But don’t th8nk it will give me enough data to see where timing is.

knt

· #10 · Nov 10, 2020

Choosing DHL will most likely incur extra charges when buying from AliExpress but delivery will be faster and more reliable than other delivery options import tax & taxes etc...

Choosing the other standard delivery options will most likely not incur extra charges but will take longer for delivery and on very small occasions might not receive the item but can also claim your money back from AliExpress.

Sam Tinky

Discussion Starter · #11 · Nov 10, 2020

I sneaked out this afternoon when I should have been doing other jobs and took the mini for a blast on the motorway. The hesitation fault on acceleration keeps occurring but it’s very intermittent. The live data on the Foxwell shows steady results with the EGR range stated as 5% to 95% and it typically runs between these two figures but when the fault occurs the EGR percentage either stalls, often at 19% or drops off to 0%. The engine speed is unaffected when this happens but it wont accelerate.
Despite the EGR being new (fitted by the previous owner) and now calibrated with my new toy.... it seems to be misbehaving so back to the workshop and take it off.
First thing I noticed when I came to unplug the electrics was how tight the wires were running up from the loom and over the EGR into the actuator. The plug has to be pulled up about 25mm out of the socket and there was no slack on the cable as it was. Seems like it could have been routed better and I’m wondering if this is causing a bad connection as I was partly convinced last week that the fault coincided with bumps in the road.
Photo of the five wire egr plug wires which were kinked over the side of the plug, is this normal?

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mike1967

· #12 · Nov 10, 2020

Sam Tinky said:
I sneaked out this afternoon when I should have been doing other jobs and took the mini for a blast on the motorway. The hesitation fault on acceleration keeps occurring but it’s very intermittent. The live data on the Foxwell shows steady results with the EGR range stated as 5% to 95% and it typically runs between these two figures but when the fault occurs the EGR percentage either stalls, often at 19% or drops off to 0%. The engine speed is unaffected when this happens but it wont accelerate.
Despite the EGR being new (fitted by the previous owner) and now calibrated with my new toy.... it seems to be misbehaving so back to the workshop and take it off.
First thing I noticed when I came to unplug the electrics was how tight the wires were running up from the loom and over the EGR into the actuator. The plug has to be pulled up about 25mm out of the socket and there was no slack on the cable as it was. Seems like it could have been routed better and I’m wondering if this is causing a bad connection as I was partly convinced last week that the fault coincided with bumps in the road.
Photo of the five wire egr plug wires which were kinked over the side of the plug, is this normal?

could be just that might also find when last owner try'd to code it the wires were not making contact and the reset would not of happened , its also possible the egr valve fitted was a after market one and not very good have seen many like that over the years.
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or a better way is blank it off have ecu mapped to remove it and discover just how much better the car runs with out it,
in fact i would go one further ie delete the dpf as well

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Sam Tinky

Discussion Starter · #13 · Nov 10, 2020

With the EGR off I can see it’s brand new with hardly any deposits. The head looks very clean too and there is a new cooler as well.
I pulled off the actuator and checked the valve to see if it was sticking but all seems fine.
I figured out the the actuator runs off pins 3 and 4, 3 being +12v so with it back on the valve I connected it up to an EGR tester which open, closes and cycles the valve and it works as expected even while banging it upside down. If there is a fault it would have to be on the signal out side of the actuator and I would rather just replace it than try and scope it out any further.

I’m leaning towards a break in the wiring again and want to monitor the 5v and 12v feeds at the actuator plug while driving over bumpy roads.....

mike1967

· #14 · Nov 10, 2020

Sam Tinky said:
With the EGR off I can see it’s brand new with hardly any deposits. The head looks very clean too and there is a new cooler as well.
I pulled off the actuator and checked the valve to see if it was sticking but all seems fine.
I figured out the the actuator runs off pins 3 and 4, 3 being +12v so with it back on the valve I connected it up to an EGR tester which open, closes and cycles the valve and it works as expected even while banging it upside down. If there is a fault it would have to be on the signal out side of the actuator and I would rather just replace it than try and scope it out any further.

I’m leaning towards a break in the wiring again and want to monitor the 5v and 12v feeds at the actuator plug while driving over bumpy roads.....

or maybe nothing wrong with egr and the hesitant issue is dpf filter or a crack in pipe work some where, or very common is the vnt on the turbo, also the boost control solenoid that controls the turbo that is down behind the engine is a brown colour is faulty or is the wrong one maybe,, have seen people put what looks the right one to find its not.

Sam Tinky

Discussion Starter · #15 · Nov 10, 2020

mike1967 said:
or maybe nothing wrong with egr and the hesitant issue is dpf filter or a crack in pipe work some where, or very common is the vnt on the turbo, also the boost control solenoid that controls the turbo that is down behind the engine is a brown colour is faulty or is the wrong one maybe,, have seen people put what looks the right one to find its not.

I’m open to alternative ideas but isn’t the total loss or freeze of live EGR data at the exact same moment significant? The fault is short lived and sporadic, it’s not tied to rpm or vehicle speed, hot or cold. The codes it throws up all point to an EGR fault as well. Overall assessment of the car is that it’s been well looked after with a fair bit of main dealer servicing while with its lady owners. There is no smoke, no blowback, starts on the button and performance/acceleration is tremendous, I didn’t imagine D’s were this quick so guess the turbo is on form. Showing 42mpg with me exploring limits..... DPF was replaced just over 12months ago, recent MAF probably at the same time or more recently with the EGR (egr looks like a cheap one with no obvious branding). When it runs without fault which is most of the time it’s not showing any other symptoms.

I will look into the points you raise Mike as it would be good to start ruling out a few more things and narrow the field. I could do with a decent engine wiring diagram if anyone has a good one showing ECU pin outs?

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Ggsumo

· #16 · Nov 11, 2020

I had the EGR blanked off for 10 years on my Cougar, not sure if it’s feasible with these but may be worth it short term just to see if it has any effect.

Sam Tinky

Discussion Starter · #17 · Nov 11, 2020

Yes mike has suggested that earlier on.
At the moment though I view blanking off the egr (and pulling out the DPF) as a final option. It will be my safety net when my ‘new hobby’ enthusiasm for diagnostics takes a nose dive from this balancing act that I’m on....

I’m kind of enjoying the learning process of modern mechanics and diagnostics. It’s moved on a bit since my ‘A series’ crossflow, pinto, land rover days when swopping out points for electronic ignition was the height of technology. Even my outboard engine has to be plugged into a laptop now so I’ve got to stick with it at least until it gets too cold in the evenings.

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Spuud

· #18 · Aug 19, 2021

Sam Tinky said:
The software installed easily on a laptop,

Ive been stumped at the first post. I'm trying to activate the keygen but the file extension it wants is ".XML" and it wont find the "2016keygen.rar" file.
What am I doing wrong?

Spuud

· #19 · Aug 19, 2021

Spuud said:
What am I doing wrong?

Ah ...had to unzip the .rar file, double click the "autocom 2016.00.kg", then click activate on the pop up box

I'll have a olay tomorrow

mike1967

· #20 · Aug 20, 2021

YOU MUST HAVE NO ANTI VIRUS RUNNING AND MUST HAVE NO INTERNET CONNECTION TO INSTALL THE SOFTWARE ,

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