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Some news from the french press of this week,
seen in "Auto Plus" :

They've made a performance test on some various car on the market (55). They've tried on a cerified bench regulary controlled during the essai. Each mesurement has been done twice or more depending of the results and at least two similar car were tested when the power mesured was to much different from the constructor figures. the tests were done with cars rolling on the bench, not with a powermeter link to thee engine, so it's REAL power.

Result for the Cooper :

constructor 115 HP
mesured 126 !!!!!!

1 thats a good news
2 too bad for the chips that will give the same power of the original model comparing to the constructor figures!

Now for the bad news :
In the same paper, they say BMW might do a general return of the MINI for a problem of water entering the doors causing damage to the electrical system. They say this problem causes the windows to self open and the lock disfunctionnement ! (well known in this forum).

Also i suppose the wet can also be at the origin of the dirty windows also described in the forum.

PS : For the VW fans the 150 HP golf is given for 177 HP !
 

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Thanks for posting this information. It confirms a number of other posts last year that the official power figures are very conservative, perhaps because BMW don't test their engines at sea level.
 

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I think it's revealing somehing else.

Since the maximum difference between real and catalog power is for German constructors and particullary VW for the diesel engines, maybe it's to be a commercial argument for them. For exemple if you compare a 110 TDI to a 110 HDI (Peugeot), you've got in fact 126 HP against 111 for the Peugeot, and VW can say they have the better engine !

Another point is taxes. I don't know in England but in France taxes depends of the power of the vehicule. So saying a vehicule is 150 HP instead of 177 is putting the car in a lower category. Good for us buyers but against the law.

For the company cars we've got a tax (TVTS) that doubles from category 7 to category 8. So it's very interesting to be below 8. Taking the Passat TDI 130 that is in the cat 7, if you consider it in the cat 8 according to it's real power, then maybe less company would buy it.
 
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