Thats quite funny because my Cooper S made a CTR look a bit stupid the other dayBroccers said:Good point so why bother trying. My CTR made a cooper s look stupid to 100 never mind adding 100 plus ponies.
I was just amused that one of you guys had the balls to try it on.
It wont have been into any bends my friend - green stuff pads are rubbish. Also the two cars are pretty equal in a straight line.ChrisBuer said:Thats quite funny because my Cooper S made a CTR look a bit stupid the other day
I'm the other Breadvan > JCW Cooper S convert. MCBert is right, not much can touch it in a straight line. In fact for the year that I had it, the only 4 wheeled thing that overtook me, had 911 turbo on the back.MCBert said:I sold an M Coupe to buy a JCW Cooper S. I would also have found it very amusing for a Mini to have a go in a straight line when i had it - you could make just about anybody look stupid if they tried it on. I used to love the CTR boys having a go
Broccers, I find my fuel economy is a bit better in the Mini than it was in the M. I used to get about 200 miles to a tank in the M. As Raify says, it's the same size as the Mini. I had my JCW fitted 2 weeks ago, swiftly followed by an MTH upgrade. Since this I've been getting around 260 miles from a tank. Before the JCW I was getting about 300 miles. All in all, not a bad drop consdiering the performance difference.Broccers said:Bert - regarding fuel economy would you say your Works was much better than the M ?
Are you glad you switched ?
Horses for courses really mateBroccers said:It wont have been into any bends my friend - green stuff pads are rubbish. Also the two cars are pretty equal in a straight line.
It swings and roundabouts mate. At the recent Autocar track day (Rockingham) there was a Clio Cup on Eibach coilovers and he couldn't keep up with me in the corners. Neither could a 111R Elise driven by Chris Harris. I am not the world's best driver, so my car is very quick in the bends, and corners like a pancake. Then again I have a finely tuned Spax coilover setup and the BBR gripper suspension mod that simply rules on track. All I need for my next trackday is a Quaife LSD...Please make you donations as of today...thank youChrisBuer said:Horses for courses really mate
I don't have Green Stuff pads anymore and yes they aren't great at all. In the bends my work collegues Focus RS can't pull any distance from me so I doubt a CTR would.
I do read a lot of rubbish about the mini to be fair. I spent a lot of time on the Clio Sport forums through a friend of mine and they always rave about the CTR and now the new Golf GTI.
Thing I can't understand is that the Mini handles better than them (when properly lowered and setup + ditch the rubbish runflats). The Mini is lighter than both, has a higher bhp, higher torque figure, a higher power to weight ratio and is generally more driveable. But its all down to personal preference so if the CTR floats your boat, then good for you
All the best
P.S. A lowered Clio Cup would obliterate them all I've seen it firsthand. Not even my old Elise could touch that!!
I agree. When the 'Driving Tales' section of the forum was open the little kiddies on there didn't half spout some :bad: :bad: :bad: :bad: Glad they closed it. It could have cost more young lives as a result if they had left it openBroccers said:Shame on you for reading Cliosport and taking anything they type seriously
The Cups are actually quicker than the Type R over a quarter to be fair - shame they arent built very well. The Honda was 'cheap' on the inside but the overall package for 15 odd grand was great ... until it got nicked .
The CTR also was woefully badly set up out of the box too and I was amazed what a 4 wheel align did to the car - how they let the cars out of Swindon like that I'll never know.
As for the brakes I thought the DS2500 I popped in were quite good ..... anything is quite good compared to Green Suff id say
End of the day its all down to the driver.
Sound amazing!!supercoopers said:For the money Chris, you will not get a better handling MCS than my car (not arrogance, the truth ).
Spax coilovers = 695 quid (installed myself, dialled in by the pros)
BBR Gripper Suspension = 550 quid
Seeing a 111R Elise driven by a highly prized motoring journalist spin feet in front of you cos he can't stand the heat from a MINI = $$ PRICELESS $$
The 'dialling in' process is the most critical part of the process IMHO. Anyone who has a Spax coilover kit and wants advice on settings for road and track, please PM me.
p.s. Check out www.bbrgti.com for the gripper suspension mod. It's amazing. Full stop. It fully neutralises understeer, but just watch out that snap oversteer if you cook it (yes, I did spin out a few times on track but I was pushing hard to get past that pesky Elise )