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I see it here all the time and recently had an encounter where I was set straight that the person I was talking to was "British" and not "English". I got the impression being English was less than appealing to this person. Bit of a snob anyway.

So, please clear this up for me.
 

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If you call a Scot, Welshman or Irishman English then you will probably get punched. If you call an Englishman one of the other nationalities then it's not normally such a problem (in my experience). All are British except those from the Republic of Ireland (Eire).
 

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I'm English - English is of England. Sometimes you find some of the ethnic groups preferring to be British rather than English. A passport and citizenship is British rather than English. English implies more of an ethnicity to England whereas British is a more generic label. A snob may well prefer to say British as that is their true citizenship.

Does that make any sense - I know what I'm trying to say :D
 

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I think Soggy has hit the nail on the head with that explanation :)

Just unfortunate that most of the time, Englishmen cannot express themselves as English and only British (on application forms and the like) :mad:

Well done Soggy, I think that explains it almost perfectly - Does to an Englishman ( and a proud one at that) anyway :D
 

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they're all goobers :D :p

so...really? Even a Scot would be English? If so that would explain why Shepard shows up as English on the census records in my genealogy search... :eek: :p
 

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MoonPie said:
Even a Scot would be English?
You can be either Scottish, English, Welsh or (Northern) Irish and call yourself British.

Calling a Scot English is not good :( ;) :p

Like calling a Englishman Welsh :eek: :D
 

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Grings said:
You can be either Scottish, English, Welsh or (Northern) Irish and call yourself British.

Calling a Scot English is not good :( ;) :p

Like calling a Englishman Welsh :eek: :D

tell that to the folks who did the census records back in the early 1900s in the US :p

though I get yer drift now

SO, let's all start calling Soggy a Scot ;)
 

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wibbly said:
I think Soggy has hit the nail on the head with that explanation :)

Just unfortunate that most of the time, Englishmen cannot express themselves as English and only British (on application forms and the like) :mad:

Well done Soggy, I think that explains it almost perfectly - Does to an Englishman ( and a proud one at that) anyway :D
Thanks you - and I frequently cross out British and put English on my forms - US customs hate it :D
 

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Thanks you - and I frequently cross out British and put English on my forms - US customs hate it :D
haha I do exactly the same thing :p

Funny thing is my Missus hates it as well :D
 

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klint said:
pmsl...This thread is interesting.

Hey everyone's forgetting the tiniest minority in the British Isles...the Manx ;) hehehe.
So what are you Guys Klint??

Manxonians or something??
 

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SoggyCornFlakes said:
Thanks you - and I frequently cross out British and put English on my forms - US customs hate it :D
Yeah they hate it so much that I got told to fill out another one and sent to the back of the queue :(
 

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SoggyCornFlakes said:
I'm English - English is of England. Sometimes you find some of the ethnic groups preferring to be British rather than English. A passport and citizenship is British rather than English. English implies more of an ethnicity to England whereas British is a more generic label. A snob may well prefer to say British as that is their true citizenship.

Does that make any sense - I know what I'm trying to say :D
Excellent!
Kinda what I was hoping the answer would be. Didn't like the lady anyway. Got the feeling she thought she was milling about with Commoners :rolleyes: :D

Step away to do some real work and I find this thread's been busy. I get so used to posting duds I figured this would be another.
 
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