Not to mention supplier to the Audi family A4/A6/A8/S4/S6/S8 as well as the Porsche 911 Carrera 2, Carrera 4, 996.KarmanS said:Performance cars such as M5, M3, and Skyline GTR (which are all great driver's cars in my mind) are equipped with a getrag unit. I am glad the cooper S will have it too!
My Dealer showed me their Factory MINI Cooper S Manual (about 3 inches thick !!) this clearly states the 6 speed is a Getrag unit.....no question at all. Absolutely NO CHANCE of a copy before anyone asks.....rich said:There seems to have been a bit of debate about what gearbox the S will actually get...
Latest specs off miniusa.com confirm it's a Getrag box
It's strange that if it is the same gearbox, then why hasn't Ford made mention of having a premium Getrag transmission as being part of their new model? I remember reading that the gearbox in the SVT has an unusual design to acheive the 6 speeds, but where have you heard about the same unique design being used for the Cooper S? Just curious.MiniMiller said:It would also appear to be the same unit being used in the new Ford SVT Focus. The unit in both the S and the Focus uses two shafts; the output shaft holding four gears and an output shaft with two different gears. this allows getting 6 forward speeds into a smaller container.
It should be wonderful having six choices for getting that torque to the road!!!
I'm not sure why Ford has not tooted more about having a Getrag, but last weeks Autoweek featured the Focus Ford Focus SVT article from Autoweek. You are also correct on the torque number. Ford has made tweeks to increas both HP and torque, although the torque increase is not substantial.BruceK said:
It's strange that if it is the same gearbox, then why hasn't Ford made mention of having a premium Getrag transmission as being part of their new model? I remember reading that the gearbox in the SVT has an unusual design to acheive the 6 speeds, but where have you heard about the same unique design being used for the Cooper S? Just curious.
If I remember what I read correctly, the SVT Focus will also be putting less torque through the gearbox - only 145 ft lbs out of its 2 liter engine.
It is a 6 forward geared manual Getrag Gearbox.......+ an reverse for going backwards.....or forwards going backwards.....in which case six reverse gears and one for going backwords forward.......DeniseK said:Now I may be wrong, and usually am, but I was looking at the gear shift for the Cooper S on miniusa.com, and the gear layout seems to be 5 forward gears, one reverse gear. Is this what is being touted as 6 gears?
Have you seen the Gear Ratios on the miniusa.com site. Thats a very short shifting gearbox. Not sure why it doesn't have a final drive ratio listed though....any explainations over and above that they forgot to state it ?pbraun said:That's very cool. I want one !
No.... I've got it too. That's one benefit of being at the Essen Motor Show besides being all over the real thing !Basil said:For the doubters: -
(Credit for this picture goes to ADO15 who posted scans of the only "S" brochure known to currently exist in the whole MINI2 universe)
Sigh!.....geez your lucky.OnlyS4me said:
No.... I've got it too. That's one benefit of being at the Essen Motor Show besides being all over the real thing !
Makes sense, thanks...Viscount Charles said:The final drive ratio in the Rover Minis vary between about 3.6:1 and 4.1:1. Higher top speed with the second, vs better acceleration with the first, IIRC.
So 3.9-ish isn't out of the ballpark, but might be considered a little long by the smoking-tyre brigade.