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Hi. I’m new to the forum. I’ve signed up specifically to ask for some advice from you all. All opinions welcome!


We bought a 2010 mini for my wife in October for £3k as it was getting too complicated to just have one car. It has been running fine but started making a knocking noise yesterday. Took it to a garage who just listened to it and said the big ends have gone and it’s broken. It’s under warranty until the end of the month but this doesn’t cover wear and tear. Covers sudden breaks only. The warranty company have said we will need to find a garage who would take this job on (the one we took it to won’t do it). They will then need to strip the engine down and submit photos of the fault. If it’s wear and tear we’re left with the charges for sorting that all out. If sudden they’ll pay to fix it. Max £1000. If there’s a dispute they will sent out an independent person.

I’m thinking this has a huge potential for throwing good money after bad. I submitted some details to a scrap page website and someone has offered £425 to come and collect. Webuyanycar have said £573 (I’ve obviously submitted that there is a problem) but I don’t know how much I can rely on that - I suspect they will knock it down further at the inspection appointment.

So take it to the garage? Or write off £2500 and at least get some money back?
 

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Whats the mileage ???

The first thing I would do is buy a cheap odbII scanner and check for error codes, don't drive it in case it's a vanos problem.

Most likely it's gonna be the timing chain, very common. and although I'm no expert but I doubt it's the big ends.

There are plenty of tutorials on doing the timing chain yourself, and although it looks daunting it's very doable if you follow the instructions, and with a handful of the right tools and parts it can be done sub £500.

I'm sure a more knowledgeable person will offer you some help.

welcome to mini ownership
 

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IIRC the big ends = big end of the connecting rods, meaning the rod bearings are bad.

+1 on getting a second opinion. Just from reading other threads, this noise may be a vanos problem or the timing chain needs to be replaced. I only know what I’ve read about the Prince engine, mine’s a first generation with the TriTec engine.

I’ve worked on a lot of different cars and rebuilt a lot of engines, but I learned that our MINIs are another world when it comes to servicing them. They can fool you if you’re not paying close attention!

Agree on the decoder ring! I keep seeing “a 64 plate” or something like that, is it something to do with the car’s registration?

Every day is a school day.
 

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There are two new age related registrations a year. a 12 plate is march to August 2012 and a 62 plate is August 2012 to March 2013. In the 2020's it will be 20 and 70, 21 - 71 etc.
My R58 coupe is a 12 plate and was registered July 2012 and I have a 68 plate Mercedes A250 which was registered February 2019

Gerry
 

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It always worth a second opinion, have you been back to the dealer and seen what they say?
Even if its wear and tear its not your wear and tear, unless you've done something stupid and run without oil. The warranty period is supposed to give you time to make sure there are no major faults.

1. Get another opinion preferably from someone who understands mini engines. Unlikely to be big ends, last time I heard of big end trouble was in the 90s on a 70s car.
2. might be worth getting somebody to check the warranty for you, but most cover engine faults so you either need reimbursing fully or fixing, Citzen's Advice can probably help here.
 

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typical shite warranty,

as above it will be hard for them to say it's all 'your' wear and tear, to you it's a sudden failure, if the car had oil and wasn't overheating or driven ignorantly with warnings etc then there is an argument to say it is a sudden mechanical breakdown and should be partially covered, although the £1k limit won't go near the full repair cost.

the engineer they will send out is paid for by the warranty company so will always side where the cheque comes from, especially if they can easily say wear exists no matter how long it's been there,

consider how much it will cost to replace the car rather than residuals or offers etc, and perhaps repair it as it can be worthwhile vs starting again with a similarly unknown vehicle condition wise, ie you could come away with a car better than you started with, but I accept it's not for everyone, especially in the UK, we have a disposable view that is getting worse imo.

what I would do first on this is seek a second opinion if the garage only looked briefly or may not know the car model well enough. Perhaps check the auxiliary drive belt isn't causing the noise, they can come apart, or the water pump drive wheel can which is rubber coated, and as the lumpy remaining surface is driven by an adjacent wheel it can make a really very similar noise to a big end, it's actually in some threads online where this has been the issue so is worth looking at, long shot I know....
 

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Thanks guys. I’m definitely getting a second opinion from a mini specialist.
To answer another question it has 97000 miles!!
 
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