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LE MANS 2005 16th-19th June - be there!

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Mini2 @ Le Mans 2005!

Welcome to the Mini2 Le Mans 2005 convey!

Le Mans is the motor racing and car enthusiast social event of the year; thousands make the 400 mile trip through France each year to catch the trackside action and social frolics, and for the first time so will Mini2! :D

Dates and proposed itinerary
Thursday June16th: Travel day in convey from rendezvous point in UK through France to Le Mans via Speedferries crossing (07:45?), locate campsite, pitch tents and get some kip!

Friday June17th: Practise day, soak up the sunshine :cool: , check out the cars, browse the pitlane and share a ‘few’ beers :p with fellow petrolheads into the evenings entertainment!

Saturday June 18th: Race day, take in all the race action trackside at any time, droll over hundreds of cars, more beer! :D Go-karting and fairground (pre-alcoholic intake of course! :eek: ), socialising late into the night and try to re-locate tent!

Sunday June 19th: Race day, re-cover from night before, more action as above! :D
Optional: Travel back through evening / night.

Monday June20th: Optional: Travel back through daytime.

The Run
Total mileage will be 375 – 400 miles each way and will be amongst plenty of Ferraris, Porkers and TVR’s!

The proposed route is shown on the map below; the ferry crossing is actually Dover to Boulogne so ignore the part where it goes through Calais!

The two alternatives for the run are down the A1 and around Paris, or the conventional route via Rouen, I’ve heard the later is the most popular. The start point is shown as Chelmsford Essex; however we can make this rendezvous point at any location in the UK dependent on where people will be travelling from.



Detailed route directions will be posted nearer the time.

Ferry crossing​
www.speedferries.co.uk are offering 2 for 1 on bookings made during December at only £50, this is a bargain and the times are starting to get full already so we’d better be quick here. This route is Dover to Boulogne; other options if we can’t all get booked on include the Channel tunnel or Dover to Calais.

Ferry times to be confirmed, but I would suggest 07:45 or similar for the crossing on the 16th, this gives us plenty of time to cruise down and allow for any problems encountered en route.

Campsites
A number of options here; the most popular campsites are ‘Houx’, ‘Houx annexe’ and ‘Maison blache’ to name but a few, these are located inside the circuit. Tickets are issued by the ‘ACO group’ who run the 24Hr racing, and are of limited availability, TVR clubs usually take a large number of the allocation so therefore I will need to understand numbers before applying for these.

Other campsites located just outside the circuit offer excellent facilities and courtesy buses to the circuit as required. One of these in particular www.clubmotorsport.co.uk offers a whole package including pitch, meals and entertainment, this costs £165 and is perhaps a preferred option for the Le Mans virgins among us!

I’m awaiting more details on an alternative campsite at only £9 per day, meals and drink extra, again this one is just outside the circuit. We will need to bring tents and sleeping essentials (including plenty of bog roll!).

Tickets for all camping are on a ‘per car’ basis so there is no problem with filling a car if you intend to bring partners / friends etc.

Circuit tickets
Easy to purchase ‘on the gate’, however they can be bought in advance for £50 and are often included in the campsite deals for some tour groups. Tickets options include parking inside the circuit to view the racing for £20. I believe there is free access to the pitlane and cars during practise days! Other options such as Grandstand seats will be extra.

Costs
Approximate costs are detailed below and on a ‘per car’ basis. Campsite costs could well be significantly lower, but need to be confirmed when we start to have an idea on numbers as discussed above. Fuel costs are based on Cooper S.

Total fuel cost UK £16
Total fuel cost France £33
Combined £49
Combined return £98
Toll roads £6
Ferry crossing £50
Campsite (per car) £38 (self catering) or £165 (total package)
General entr. ticket £40
Spending money (beer, food, toiletries, maps etc) £100

Total £479 (max) / £352 (min)

Feedback
I’d welcome feedback on whether people would prefer to get back Sunday night (could be tight) or travel back Monday daytime. Additionally, we can leave a day earlier and have a relaxing pre-amble around Le Mans or similar.

Deadlines and deposits

Please register your interest on this thread before 31st January 2005, this will allow sufficient time for the organising of camping and ferries. Once we start to understand the numbers I’ll require a deposit in order to finalist the bookings, thanks.

The safety bit!
As a responsible run organiser I would just like to point out the safety bit as detailed by Soggycornflakes (Bob) here! :) Unfortunately I will not be able to practise the route beforehand!

You should also ensure you have adequate insurance cover for travel abroad, GB identifiers, car headlights set appropriately, first aid and warning triangle. An E111 is also essential and separate holiday insurance is recommended.

I would like to limit the number of cars to 15 initially to ensure everyone gets the most enjoyment from their trip.

Links
Here’s a few links to wet your appetitie!
www.blokesatlemans.co.uk
www.lemans.org

Thanks and see you there! :p :D
Attendee list
1) Davislove3rd +1
2) Mini-medic
3) Fizzle
4) Old School Jonnie +1
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Sounds really good mate, put my name down please!!

my mate that i was origionally goin to le mans with found out last week that he has exams and cant make it so this couldnt of been timed better!!

already got the time booked off work (2weeks) so i would probably prefer to travel back on the monday.

just need to make sure i'm covered for driving abroad as my mini is insured in my mums name, sure i'll be able to arange it somehow, if not i'll bring my dads car but it just wudnt be the same without the mini!!

ps. heres another good link for camping etc: www.beermountain.com
Good luck with this run, sadly I can't join you as I am already going to Belgium for INMM2005 the following weekend.

You will be wise to take the A28-Rouen route, less trucks on the road than A1-Paris route and a lot emptier :)

I believe there may be toll road sections along the A28-Rouen route, like the A16 once you have passed Boulogne etc.. However, I cannot see the toll charges on the "Cost" list.

You may be advised to try using ViaMichelin to plan your route from Boulogne to Le Mans, as it gives you an estimate on toll road charges, very good site indeed :)

Also, you may need to pay extra for your insurance abroad, as most insurance company will only give you 48-72h free cover in Europe.

And don't forget your travel insurance, E111, spare bulbs, warning triangle etc... :)

Hope this helps, in case there are peeps who have not made a trip across the Channel :)

DK ;) :apple:
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dcfkan said:
Good luck with this run, sadly I can't join you as I am already going to Belgium for INMM2005 the following weekend.

You will be wise to take the A28-Rouen route, less trucks on the road than A1-Paris route and a lot emptier :)

I believe there may be toll road sections along the A28-Rouen route, like the A16 once you have passed Boulogne etc.. However, I cannot see the toll charges on the "Cost" list.

You may be advised to try using ViaMichelin to plan your route from Boulogne to Le Mans, as it gives you an estimate on toll road charges, very good site indeed :)

Also, you may need to pay extra for your insurance abroad, as most insurance company will only give you 48-72h free cover in Europe.

And don't forget your travel insurance, E111, spare bulbs, warning triangle etc... :)

Hope this helps, in case there are peeps who have not made a trip across the Channel :)

DK ;) :apple:
So that means you wont be joining us at the house on the Friday evening for the BBQ Dora :( :(
Brushy said:
So that means you wont be joining us at the house on the Friday evening for the BBQ Dora :( :(
I doubt it :(

Besides, even if I were coming to this, I probably would not drive all the way up and then convoy back down to Dover ;)

Thanks for the invite though, awwww :)

DK ;) :apple:
dcfkan said:
Good luck with this run, sadly I can't join you as I am already going to Belgium for INMM2005 the following weekend.

You will be wise to take the A28-Rouen route, less trucks on the road than A1-Paris route and a lot emptier :)

I believe there may be toll road sections along the A28-Rouen route, like the A16 once you have passed Boulogne etc.. However, I cannot see the toll charges on the "Cost" list.

You may be advised to try using ViaMichelin to plan your route from Boulogne to Le Mans, as it gives you an estimate on toll road charges, very good site indeed :)

Also, you may need to pay extra for your insurance abroad, as most insurance company will only give you 48-72h free cover in Europe.

And don't forget your travel insurance, E111, spare bulbs, warning triangle etc... :)

Hope this helps, in case there are peeps who have not made a trip across the Channel :)

DK ;) :apple:
cheers dcfkan, I have updated the post with those details, will also add the toll road costs when I get the route directions together :)
Ooo, I forgot to mention in-car communication via PMR446s :)

Mobile phone roaming charges are very expensive, hence you are strongly advised to equipe yourselves with some decent 2-way radios as in PMR446s. You can find a webpage dedicated to this subject on Apple's site :)

Maplin has Motorola T5422s on special offer at the mo, and they are good radios :)

DK ;) :apple:
one other point worth noting for folks that have Speed Camera GPS detectors in their MINIs. Remove them, the fines are quite expensive in most countries for being caught with them in your car.
It may be worth your while to have a look in the Stelvio or Bust 2004 thread as they covered everything under the sun (they had newbies on the run) :)

DK ;) :apple:
www.miniturismo.co.uk but at the moment it doesnt have any advice for driving in europe, try the rac or aa they usually have plenty of information
scooperman_uk said:
one other point worth noting for folks that have Speed Camera GPS detectors in their MINIs. Remove them, the fines are quite expensive in most countries for being caught with them in your car.
This year 700 euro fine or confiscation :eek:
Ok, you can add myself and Rebecca down for this one.
Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!
Old School Jonnie said:
Ok, you can add myself and Rebecca down for this one.
Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!
Rebecca :D :D
Old School Jonnie said:
Ok, you can add myself and Rebecca down for this one.
Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!
excellant m8! neither can I! :)
dcfkan said:
Good luck with this run, sadly I can't join you as I am already going to Belgium for INMM2005 the following weekend.

You will be wise to take the A28-Rouen route, less trucks on the road than A1-Paris route and a lot emptier :)

I believe there may be toll road sections along the A28-Rouen route, like the A16 once you have passed Boulogne etc.. However, I cannot see the toll charges on the "Cost" list.

You may be advised to try using ViaMichelin to plan your route from Boulogne to Le Mans, as it gives you an estimate on toll road charges, very good site indeed :)

Also, you may need to pay extra for your insurance abroad, as most insurance company will only give you 48-72h free cover in Europe.

And don't forget your travel insurance, E111, spare bulbs, warning triangle etc... :)

Hope this helps, in case there are peeps who have not made a trip across the Channel :)

DK ;) :apple:
ok guys, have now updated with toll road costs, not much

Brushy, how close is your house to the circuit? lucky devil
Congratulations on an excellent, well put together first post :)

The house that we'll be staying in this year is about 20 miles south of the circuit, this not only gives good access to the circuit but also makes Tours and the Loire very close as well.

The only slight correction to your first post is that Friday is a rest day. Basically the week runs like this;

Monday/Tuesday scruitenering................this happens in the Town centre

Wednesday/Thursday practice sessions between 1900 to 2100 and 2200 to 00 00

Friday is a rest day and a bit like Mad Sunday at the Isle of Man TT.

Race 16 00 start time on Saturday and not suprisingly finishing the same time Sunday.

Anyone travelling down on the Friday might like to stop at the classic british welcome at St Saturin about three miles north on the N138 as you approach the town...............its all geared up for the Brits and you'll see some nice cars also bonus is that its free. You can also buy there admission tickets plus membership of the ACO. By joining the ACO you get a discount on tickets which if you buy six covers the membership cost, for this you gete access to the clubhouse which provides a quiet area and somewhere to sit and relax plus clean toilets.

This will be the sixteenth time l've been and l'm sure you'll all enjoy the experience.

Thanks again .................oh and the ferry crossing deal ;) well done were booked and well found :)
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Thanks for all the extra info' Brushy. This is gonna be an epic trip, really looking forward to it, should have the new 'S' by then too!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brushy said:
Congratulations on an excellent, well put together first post :)

The house that we'll be staying in this year is about 20 miles south of the circuit, this not only gives good access to the circuit but also makes Tours and the Loire very close as well.

The only slight correction to your first post is that Friday is a rest day. Basically the week runs like this;

Monday/Tuesday scruitenering................this happens in the Town centre

Wednesday/Thursday practice sessions between 1900 to 2100 and 2200 to 00 00

Friday is a rest day and a bit like Mad Sunday at the Isle of Man TT.

Race 16 00 start time on Saturday and not suprisingly finishing the same time Sunday.

Anyone travelling down on the Friday might like to stop at the classic british welcome at St Saturin about three miles north on the N138 as you approach the town...............its all geared up for the Brits and you'll see some nice cars also bonus is that its free. You can also buy there admission tickets plus membership of the ACO. By joining the ACO you get a discount on tickets which if you buy six covers the membership cost, for this you gete access to the clubhouse which provides a quiet area and somewhere to sit and relax plus clean toilets.

This will be the sixteenth time l've been and l'm sure you'll all enjoy the experience.

Thanks again .................oh and the ferry crossing deal ;) well done were booked and well found :)
thanks Brushy :), I like to keep everyone informed of what's involved

re Friday, does that mean you can take your car out on the circuit?, I think we will also take your advice and visit St Saturin sounds good,

do you have any tips for anymore campsites, once I know numbers at the end of Jan I will be booking straight away,

Old school jonnie, good news on the new S, I will have the 210 works in by the time we go so I will have to be careful between the payages !!
Friday :D :D a large part of the circuit is public roads therefore you can drive them ;) best is to follow the direction of the track............................From Tetre rouge down the Mulsanne to the Mulsanne corner through Indianapolis into Arnage (the slowest corner on the circuit) and then towards the Porsche chicanes........................dam thats where it finishes :mad:

Go to Mulsanne straight on Friday lunch time.............always a laugh...then on to Arnage village.................the Brits go there and its always amusing ;)

Campsites.........................sorry cant help there, never done them, always rented houses :)
Hmmm, 210 bhp conversion eh?
My new mcs is delivered in February, that gives me 4 months to catch up ;) ;)

A lap of the Le Mans circuit sounds pretty damn cool to me :cool: :cool:
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