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Hello all, a short story here.

My friend took her 2008 Mini Cooper S into the Dealership because of a flat battery (car used regularly so no reason for this). The battery was still under warranty so she needed to go to the dealers to get it replaced. We don't trust them though, but no choice...
Instead of quick replacement they kept the car.
Here is where things go strange. They said they need to do a 'driver's profile', to see if this effected the battery life incase it voids the warranty with way she drives. First question: is this possible on 2008 mini?
They then discovered the car was not going into sleep mode and 'destroyed' the Battery. 3 days later, still no more details, they have no clue which component will not sleep. I called them and questioned them the mechanic. He said 'it will take as long as it will take', 'cannot find which component will not sleep and was clueless to know how to find it'. He suggested it might be the sunroof rain sensor, which the car dies not have? . The manager then told me to run diagnostics it was $151 an hour... and basically not knowing anything we left it at that. Car still in the shop and tomorrow is day 4. Obviously my friend does not want to commit to paying, as no more details..
I recommended my friend takes the car, she agreed to paying $150, and take the car to her normal mechanic.
This sound normal? Does a car have a driver profile? Is sleep mode not working so hard to fix?, and normal to get no ETA or clear quote???
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so the way the sleep mode works is its part of the bcm body control module this controls all of the electronics as a centre point as such so all power for everything goes through it,, so when you lock the car this ecu is the part that locks it from signal from key fob to the interour mirror sensor this lock the car and bcm is now on a timer for 3 minutes then at 3 minutes it shuts everything down except the alarm and alarm sensors,, now if it detects any live drain above 0.5amps it will come back to life and have a 1-5amp draw on battery while its awake, things that can cause this,, and sticking relay is very common and all these relays are soldered within the body control module and fail for a past time,, trouble no one except the makers of the bcm have the test gear and knowhow on how to diagnose one,, BBA REMEN in the uk do,, if its the bcm they are coded to the car and all the other ecu's so not plug and play, its possible to get them cloned but specialist job,,, also if the bcm gets wet it will short circuit and prevent sleep mode,
alternator i have seen before cause a drain on batter and prevent sleep mode, try disconnecting it and see what drain is on battery... its also possible water ingress in wiring and central locking in the doors,,
i when trying to find a drain i use a tool that i can plug in to each fuse holder and it shows me the amps being drawn on each circuit to narrow it down,, first off check for water ingress as very common
 

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Thanks the the reply.. helpful. But our main concern is that after 4 days, the Mini is sitting in the Official Mini Service centre, and they seem clueless as how to fix it... without a timeframe and being told 'they can't find which part is going to sleep', and knowing they charge over $100 an hour, we are completely stuck. Normally you get a quote? Also what is your take on the 'driver profile' they wanted to check. That even possible?
 

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its the trouble with main dealers they tend to have parts fitment people a lot of the time,, ie they scan it the computer says fit this part or that part and thats whet they do,, you would be better off finding a auto electrician and get someone who under stands the electronics thats my take on it, also main agents dont tend to work on older stuff and are more geared to latest cars as such, hmmm driver profile thats a new one on me maybe its their way of avoiding a warranty claim
 

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Thanks the the reply.. helpful. But our main concern is that after 4 days, the Mini is sitting in the Official Mini Service centre, and they seem clueless as how to fix it... without a timeframe and being told 'they can't find which part is going to sleep', and knowing they charge over $100 an hour, we are completely stuck. Normally you get a quote? Also what is your take on the 'driver profile' they wanted to check. That even possible?
Ok.... we just heard this now:

'the SHD module causing the issue so they will be disabling power to moon roof'
its the trouble with main dealers they tend to have parts fitment people a lot of the time,, ie they scan it the computer says fit this part or that part and thats whet they do,, you would be better off finding a auto electrician and get someone who under stands the electronics thats my take on it, also main agents dont tend to work on older stuff and are more geared to latest cars as such, hmmm driver profile thats a new one on me maybe its their way of avoiding a warranty claim
Thanks!

Yes they tried to avoid that Warranty with it... Thanks for the info very helpful.
its the trouble with main dealers they tend to have parts fitment people a lot of the time,, ie they scan it the computer says fit this part or that part and thats whet they do,, you would be better off finding a auto electrician and get someone who under stands the electronics thats my take on it, also main agents dont tend to work on older stuff and are more geared to latest cars as such, hmmm driver profile thats a new one on me maybe its their way of avoiding a warranty claim
its the trouble with main dealers they tend to have parts fitment people a lot of the time,, ie they scan it the computer says fit this part or that part and thats whet they do,, you would be better off finding a auto electrician and get someone who under stands the electronics thats my take on it, also main agents dont tend to work on older stuff and are more geared to latest cars as such, hmmm driver profile thats a new one on me maybe its their way of avoiding a warranty claim
 

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Sorry having trouble with forum. Lol. Thanks for the info!! Yes they tried to avoid the warranty! Shes getting car back today and will take to someone else if the moon roof sensor needs to be looked at. Thanks!!
 

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i got moon roof in my cooper s its worth once every couple of months to open and close it and spray runner with a bit of spray grease helps to keep it all moving
 

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the body control module has the relay for the moon roof as well ie switch to bcm to roof motor the sensor on the roof is switched back to bcm,,, if you have a fan heater that can put in car and point at the in car fuse box/bcm for a hour get nice and hot easy way to rule out condensation in the central control box/bcm
 

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They think it's the SDH module sunroof control function? They are disabling it... but yes I will tell her to do that too, as she hardly uses it.
 

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I’ve been on the search for a “new” car in the recent months and I’m having a hard time figuring out which car will suit my needs the best. This will be my second vehicle I’m purchasing, the first being my current car — a 2006 Saab that is giving me more electrical problems than I can handle.
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I’ve been on the search for a “new” car in the recent months and I’m having a hard time figuring out which car will suit my needs the best. This will be my second vehicle I’m purchasing, the first being my current car — a 2006 Saab that is giving me more electrical problems than I can handle.
Here are some things I’m considering in my search: -My budget is around $10,000 -I’m looking for something small and practical for mostly city but some occasional rural/rough road driving -Fuel economy is extremely important (25pmg+ is a must) -Automatic Transmission -Well designed and durable materials (my Saab is falling apart in almost every way conceivable) -Decent driving performance and dependable for everyday commuting
At the moment, I’ve really been looking at Mini Coopers because of their small size, excellent fuel economy, affordable price, and quirky designs. However, all I’ve read about and heard of is how terrible these cars are made. I’ve done my fair-share of research by now so I know that they aren’t the best in terms of reliability and maintenance, but are they really that bad compared to other cheap-ish cars? I’m looking for something I enjoy driving, and although Toyotas and other cheaper cars are pretty practical, I can’t see myself owning one.
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Sounds like you found a resolution. Wanted to let you know that I bought a Veepeak OBD2 Bluetooth code reader from Amazon (~$30) and the BimmerLink iOS app ($31) and it pulled tons of codes, which you can print. Pretty insightful and cheaper than the labor rate you have to pay!
 
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