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As you say, updated partially, mabey is is partially on its way to being updatd to 170 BHP. I know I'm of no use, but I've got 4 days until I pick up the DS MCS, and my attention span is very short at the moment.
 

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Either emissions or bhp measurement standards. All the horspower numbers slightly differ over the atlantic. An M3 for example comes here with 343 bhp unlike the 333 in the US.

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It could be that the 170 is in fact 170PS.......this would give 168BHP......as a Pferdestarke (PS)is slightly bigger than a BHP
 

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I always thought BHP was Brake Horse Power measured at the driving wheels and not at the flywheel? (Perhaps this is something I have had screwed up for a long time).

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No it isn't.......and yes you have! :D :D :D :D

Power = Torque x Speed.

It makes no difference whether it is measured at the crank / flywheel or the wheels.

The only thing you gain by measuring at the crank is it negates the losses through the transmission.

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wobert123 said:
It could be that the 170 is in fact 170PS.......this would give 168BHP......as a Pferdestarke (PS)is slightly bigger than a BHP
MINI QUOTE 170BHP. So dunno where these sites are gettting these figures. I knoe the foucs st170, is 170 ps, cos ford say its 168bhp, tho everyone thinks its 170bhp. but mini acutally say the mcs is 170bhp on there website.
 

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The August Car and Driver has a review of the Convertable. In the article it states that one of the changes to the S for 2005 is the HP to 168. So maybe the 170 was an overstate, and it is actually 168? Dunno. Maybe just a USA thing.
 

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The US emission equipment robs a bit of horsepower. I believe BMW openly admits such, at least in the case of BMWs. 2 horsepower isn't all that bad I guess.
 

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The US emission equipment robs a bit of horsepower. I believe BMW openly admits such, at least in the case of BMWs. 2 horsepower isn't all that bad I guess.
yeah, but when they are starting with 163 bhp we need all we can get ;)
 

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Yeah.. I just picked up my 2005 last Friday - my owners manual says 168 hp - nothing a 19 percent reduction pulley can't fix!
 

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As pointed out by several others in this thread, the difference may be attributable to how horsepower is expressed in different countries.

Metric horsepower is used in many European countries:
  • PS = Pferdestärke (German)
  • pk = paardekracht (Dutch)
  • ch = chevaux (French)
1 metric horsepower equates to 0.98632 horsepower (as refered to in the US).

170 metric horsepower equates to 167.6744 horsepower.


Units of power are sometimes expressed in terms of kilowatts (kW):

1 kilowatt equates to 1.341022 horsepower

The 2004 MINI Cooper S is rated at 120 kilowatts which equates to 160.9227 horsepower or 163.1546 metric horsepower.
 

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kcollins said:
Yeah.. I just picked up my 2005 last Friday - my owners manual says 168 hp - nothing a 19 percent reduction pulley can't fix!

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT ... ANY PULLEY PARTIES AROUND SOON ? :cool:

Phil
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