grnmene said:Kotz -
I think insurance issues should be the last thing on your mind.....
....And insurance companies are even worse than dealers when it comes to mods....
Hey Badboyz.....wobert123 said:I know your comment's tongue in cheek, but Stu's just trying to make sure everyone knows where they stand on this mod.
If the insurer wants to pursue an investigation following an accident then they are free to do that, before paying out on a claim.
If after consideration you think it's worth doing and want to "risk" not telling your insurance then that's your choice.
You know the risks, you takes your choice:
Potentially..... accident = loss of car + big bill for 3rd party claims.
Just don't come and crash into me that's all!
I know it's off topic, but when I put my car in, to have stripes and a roof flag done, my insurer stated, on checking that the mod was OK with them, that they would not insure me with them on the car.
So I had to postpone the work, until after my insurance renewal was done, with another insurer who would cover the mods.
Personally, I'm not prepared to drive around with the potential liability of the loss of my car and a large bill for damages! (IMHO)
If your car has mods like exhaust or intake there is more chance that they will check out the ECU.badboyzbadboyz said:The chances of an insurance company finding a remapped ECU have to be pretty slim, but if they do you said it yourself - they are worse than dealers. You might not only face the costs of your car but possibly the cost of other cars. I'm not judging or anything (I nearly got this done myself) but to say insurance should be the last thing on your mind ..... if you were to crash I can't help but think your opinion would change. Insurance issues have to be the biggest concern with this mod, as they carry the biggest risk.
I think you will find that MINI EDR, carries a lot more data about vehicle vital signs in the seconds before a problem than you might think.snek said:No insurance company in the States that I know of would go looking through the ECU. In a few cases, the police has used the Event Data Recorder (EDR otherwise referred to as "black box") activated by the air bag deployment. It allows for subsequent retrieval of data such as vehicle speed, seat belt use, and brake application - bot not engine mods.
As for warranty, I know my dealer wouldn't give me away.
Hi to everyone, I have the same problem with n0uk. I've send the ecu files 6 days ago and a friend of mine 8 days ago, but without a reply since today.n0uk said:Has anyone (Alex?) heard anything from Franz recently. I uploaded my edu image to him on Tuesday but have not yet received any acknowledgement or reply.
You raise an interesting point. One of our Volvo customers with our ECU upgrade was in an accident after which the ECU was sent to Volvo Sweden on request from the police and insurance. When it came back, Volvo reported that they could not find any modified software. So the insurance company then had to ask the customer what was actually done. And so there you have it - it is possible that your ECU upgrade will be undetectable.Rakey said:I have information from a really good friend that car manufacturers are being asked more and more to help check software and compare to stock.
So there is no question over this, just a few people out there that think its a myth, the only myth is that re-maps are undectable