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Just been to a place in warrington NW, Power upgrade of about 50 bhp is £350. not an expert on this subject but i think it just involves re-mapping the ECU!!!

Is the price good value ????? and is it worth it on MC????

Any other ideas are welcome........... wot has anyone done on mini2?????

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Gaz
 

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So are we saying £350 gets you an ECU map and a 160BHP Mini Cooper (NA).... ?
Or are we saying £350 gets you an ECU map and a 220BHP Mini Cooper S...?

If it's just an ECU remap on a NA Mini Cooper ask for before and after dyno sessions to prove the increase (preferably at an independant Mini friendly dyno shop). And who supplies the map and is it custom or universal.

If it's just an ECU remap on a Pre 2006/7 Supercharged Mini Cooper S ask for details on fuel delivery and ignition timing, who supplies the map and is it custom or universal.

Then post back the info hereand I/we will kindly tell you whether it's bull and confirm this with tuners on hear (and elsewhere).
 

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First off it sounds too good to be true, as well as impossible to get that kind of upgrade from a simple remap;)

Secondly if you had that kind of power going through the car imagine the stress and strain on the gearbox;)

Then finally just make sure they cover any damage that said remap might cause as your warranty won't;)
 

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Checking other threads / posts we are talking about a 53 plate Cooper

50 BHP increase from an ECU remap = someone is dreaming / on the wacky backy. There is no chance.

If it was possible, would the gearbox take it - again probably no chance.

Would I personally entertain the idea - NO WAY

As others have said post up the details of what will actually be done for £350. You will need to know this for insurance propose as well as getting the best advice from this forum
 

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Speaking from a factual point of view, the most a re-map can extract from a Cooper engine is 8-12bhp depending on the vehicle. Anyone quoting a 50bhp increase from a map is quite frankly talking from their posterior.

Even if a Cooper were fitted with a free flowing exhaust, air induction, ported head, manifold, uprated ignition, cam and throttle body you'd still only be pushing 150bhp ;)
 

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^^ what they said, weve been working on a solid 140 bhp pack for the cooper and i can tell you that you will never get 150 on a re-map, it gets to the point where to cost to power / ratio gets silly and its cheeper to buy a cooper s. A coopers engine just wont do it without a couple of grands worth of work to see over 140 you need to change out the head.
 

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thanks ppl!!! i understand it alot more and that its not that simple!!! i will give them a bell and post back!!!

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ok just come off the phone!!! basically , 4 hr process with mini on the computer. upload mini info and the download the remappin info on to the mini computer!!!! hope that makes sense!!!

it will add 30-35 bhp to a standard cooper!!! they also said that if addin superchargers n turbos etc then a 6 spd gearbox is needed and brakes upgrade!!!
 

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Sorry, but you can't add 30-35 hp to a Cooper by just using a computer.

ok will look more into it!!!! im a complete novice when it comes to engines!!! just letting you know what they said over the phone!!!


its a new company thats specialising in bmw mini!!!!



thanks for your input!!!!
 

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Whats their name?? Just think the ECU isnt a miracle worker, it is bound by the same mechanical restrictions as any other car. An NA non variable cam/lift 1.6L producing 170bhp is possible but with a lot of money and then you are chasing HP which in my opinion is a waste of money. You need to look at torque if you want to go quick. HP is only good for drag racing.... day to day driving is using the engines torque more than anything.
 

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ok just come off the phone!!! basically , 4 hr process with mini on the computer. upload mini info and the download the remappin info on to the mini computer!!!! hope that makes sense!!!

it will add 30-35 bhp to a standard cooper!!! they also said that if addin superchargers n turbos etc then a 6 spd gearbox is needed and brakes upgrade!!!
Sorry, but you can't add 30-35 hp to a Cooper by just using a computer.
I agree with minicabrio here... if they said 30-35 hp to a Cooper then that's utter codswallop!

The ONE is virtually identical to a Cooper, but has an electronically de-tuned engine to put out 90bhp (the throttle body is only permitted 50% flow beyond ~4000rpm). Adding 30-35 bhp with a simple remap is possible for a ONE, but only because it's been electronically limited to start with.

There is absolutely no chance of a 30-35 bhp hike for a Cooper by using purely a remap! :p
ok will look more into it!!!! im a complete novice when it comes to engines!!! just letting you know what they said over the phone!!!


its a new company thats specialising in bmw mini!!!!



thanks for your input!!!!
Here's another little bit of input for your consideration: if they are a BMW MINI specialist as they claim to be, then they would not be getting confused between the power gains possible on a Cooper with those of a ONE.

My interpretation of what has thus far transpired is that they are either:
  1. Not a BMW MINI specialist, as they claim.
  2. Incompetent.
Neither of which is good. I'd take my car elsewhere if I were you. ;)

All the best,
Andrew.​
 

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ok just come off the phone!!! basically , 4 hr process with mini on the computer. upload mini info and the download the remappin info on to the mini computer!!!! hope that makes sense!!!

it will add 30-35 bhp to a standard cooper!!! they also said that if addin superchargers n turbos etc then a 6 spd gearbox is needed and brakes upgrade!!!
I could tell you roughly how to do a map in words lol.

Ask for a money back guarantee if you can show it doesn't add 30-35 bhp (notice how its gone down? ;) ) on before and after dyno results at an inpendant rolling road :)

Seriously, if it's just a remap then i would steer clear. Sounds like an expensive 5-8hp to me... not a cheap 30-35hp.
 

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ok ppl. will dig very deep next when my mini has its major sevice by this company!!!!


They also fitted my gearbox and clutch in march this year!!!!
 

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ive been thinking about this all day!!!!! after all the good advice given and considering this is something im a novice with i might as well leave well alone and do something else with the car!!!!

only thing is im happy with the outside!!!!

back to the drawing board i think!!!

thanks all once again!!!

i might invite this company to have a look on mini2 and express there ideas when it comes to mini cooper(S)
 

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Gazlight - the only way to increase power is by getting more air through an engine , it takes about 150 cubic feet of air/min to get 100 bhp so your 30-35 bhp needs an extra 50 cubic feet/min of increased airflow - the remap adds exactly zero air flow
What the remap does is slightly increase the efficiency of burning of the air that you already have by altering the ignition timing (the point at which your spark occurs) and adjusting the fuel that is added (mixture) the only reason the factory dont set these 2 things already is due to the varying quality of fuel that exists around the world so they make the map safe for the lowest possible grade of fuel.
lastly a remap can increase the red line from the limit that the factory set as a safe limit this can provide a higher number for the BHP ,but in fact adds no real power - as nothing has actually changed in the engine
Hope this makes sense and help clarify why everyone is sceptical of the claims
 
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