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The Mrs has claimed gear changed has been a bit temperamental lately. Whilst parking the car yesterday, I noticed a clicking round when the clutch was pressed in. Lift the clutch and the noise stops.
Today, the Mrs broke down in it 馃槵
She claimed it popped out of gear, and it wouldn't go back in. When I had a go, I put it in gear, with the engine off. When I started it, I stalled within a few seconds with the clutch pressed down.
I towed the car home, and it's parked on the drive, waiting for me to look at it.
Am I looking at clutch, master cylinder, slave cylinder? Help before I start stripping things 馃檹,
 

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Hi all,
The Mrs has claimed gear changed has been a bit temperamental lately. Whilst parking the car yesterday, I noticed a clicking round when the clutch was pressed in. Lift the clutch and the noise stops.
Today, the Mrs broke down in it 馃槵
She claimed it popped out of gear, and it wouldn't go back in. When I had a go, I put it in gear, with the engine off. When I started it, I stalled within a few seconds with the clutch pressed down.
I towed the car home, and it's parked on the drive, waiting for me to look at it.
Am I looking at clutch, master cylinder, slave cylinder? Help before I start stripping things 馃檹,
Hi , i may be the bearer of bad news , as similar symptoms were affecting our Mini One , the clicking was from gearbox , had a mechanic look at it and on gear oil change , it had plenty of metal / bits etc in old oil , not a cheap fix , recon box , fine now , but i hope i am wrong , cheers.
 

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I changed the oil when I bought the car a year ago. It didn't look great, but not much metal in it from what I can remember. I got in it today, and it seems to bite on the clutch OK 馃
The fluid level is ok, albeit very dark, so it needs changing.
Around the slave cylinder looks wet on the gearbox. The master cylinder looks ok
 

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I changed the oil when I bought the car a year ago. It didn't look great, but not much metal in it from what I can remember. I got in it today, and it seems to bite on the clutch OK 馃
The fluid level is ok, albeit very dark, so it needs changing.
Around the slave cylinder looks wet on the gearbox. The master cylinder looks ok
Hi again, you've obviously got the clutch in mind as the problem, but I've remembered a blast from the past, that a way of checking for complete clutch release, run the engine at idle and hold the clutch pedal approx. 1/2 inch from the floor, shift between first and reverse several times, if the shift is not smooth, or if the vehicle attempts to move forwards or backwards, component failure, i.e. it may be the clutch bearings. Hope this helps.
 

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Thanks. After a day of head scratching, I've changed the brake fluid, as it was very dark in colour. After bleeding all 4 brakes (as manual said should do them first!?!?) I got to the slave cylinder, and nothing comes out when I try to bleed it. The slave actually squeeks as if its dry, when I push the clutch pedal, so I'm thinking it's empty, and just working of compressed air instead of fluid!
So finger pointing towards master cylinder? So I'm thinking of changing master and slave cylinder.
I'm I talking shit? 馃槀
 

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I forgot about taking the slave off and camping. I didn't get any fluid out at all, so still suggesting it's bad as opposed to me being a tit? 馃槀
 

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fwiw some of the slaves need more than a turn of the valve to begin venting, certainly the 53's,
the creaking could be down to the load of the tired pressure plate rather than the cylinder itself,
if compressing air you'd have no gear selection as the pedal would be spongey.
 

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I fitted the slave cylinder tonight, but it would not bleed! Even though I compressed the cylinder in, and rotated the bleed nipple to the top. So I started to replace the master cylinder...... I did some swearing! Who puts a master cylinder there!!!! I didn't get the new one fitted before it went dark, so will continue with day 3 tomorrow 馃槶 I got the slave and master for 拢70, so not bad, considering eurocarparts wanted 拢150 for both!!!! 馃ぃ
 

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So day 3 went along the lines of...
Fit new slave cylinder. Couldn't bleed it because the Mrs was working.
Day 4....
Bleed the new slave with the Mrs. Just as I'm getting somewhere, the new slave broke 馃槶
Day 5....
Buy new slave number 2, and fit, and bleed.
I get fluid to the pipe feeding the slave, and some fluid goes in, but not a lot. I tried compressing the slave, it won't bleed. I decompressed it, and it still won't bleed.
No matter what I do, I cannot det fluid to come out of the bleed nipple!
Tomorrow I am walking over to the garage that's about 100m from my house and throwing them the keys to sort it 馃槶馃槶馃槶馃槶
 

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So to update anyone who is intrigued, I got the master and slave cylinder fitted. Took ages to. Leed the slave, because I didn't realise the bleed nipple on the slave needed to be undone a lot more than the usual brake caliper nipple.
However, this didn't fix the problem 馃槶 the garage over the road diagnosed it as clutch failure. He passed comment that the Mini is known for clutch fork failure too? 馃
I still have an undiagnosed ABS issue, which could cost 拢100's to fix. That issue can't be fixed until the car is drivable 馃槶
So that coupled with a 拢500-拢650 (depending where I go), could put me into 4 figures 馃槵
 

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Can鈥檛 say how common it is, but here is what you may be facing;


The taper pin (on US cars, at least) must be drilled out, trying to drive it out won鈥檛 work.

Make sure you have replacement parts in hand before doing this job! At least over here these pieces are hard to come by.

Edit: Here鈥檚 the pin I used, hopefully they鈥檙e a lot easier for you to get!
 

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Picked it up from the specialist garage today, and parted with 拢595 馃槶 drives well now. Just hope the gearbox doesn't die now 馃槵馃
 

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My daughter and I had to replace the bearings in the Midlands gearbox of her 2004 R50. The main symptom was howling when going down the road. The clicking you heard with the clutch pedal pressed down was likely the throwout bearing, and the shop would have replaced it as part of the clutch job.

The shop that did the clutch job on my daughter鈥檚 car told the previous owner 鈥渢he clutch needed to break in and the howling would stop鈥. (馃挬馃挬馃挬馃挬馃挬馃挬馃挬). When she drained the transmission, the last 1/2 litre or so looked more like silver paint than gearbox oil!

As far as your ABS light goes, there is a code set in the computer that will point you towards the problem. Auto parts stores here can read the codes for free, and they鈥檙e happy to sell you the parts you need!

Considering what a shop will charge for this repair, you may be able to justify to your wife the cost of your own code reader, etc. to do the job yourself... just sayin鈥... 馃槅
 
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