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Rough idle (cold start), yellow engine light

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Hello there,

I have a 2009 Mini Cooper S Auto, Petrol and on the 55000 miles. I bought the car very recently and the only problem when bought was the sunroof as it was not working properly (which is not a big deal!).

The next day, I noticed that the car has a very rough idle. It starts at approx. 2 minutes after I start the car and never goes off. Yellow engine light came off and I took it well respected and well known Mini specialist. Left my car to him and took 1 month and £1500 picked up the car and it is not even improved 1%. Due to Coronavirus, now I cannot reach him (and I am not sure should I reach him as he couldn't fix anything at all). Other than this, the car drives perfectly.

You can watch the rough idle video from here

And here is a list of what my mechanic did to the car

1 Investigate engine rough running & warning light on:
  • 2745 DME: Multiplicative mixture adaptation
  • 2786 DME: Additional mixture adaptation
  • Carried out a mixture control text module
  • Multiplicative mixture adaptation: partial load fuel-air mixture too lean
  • Additive mixture adaptation: Idle fuel-air mixture is too rich
  • Cylinder idle quality values outside of setpoint values
  • Require to check intake system for air leaks
  • Carried out smoke testing for intake system & inspect for leaks
  • No visual external leaks present
  • Engine breather unit allowing smoke to bypass
  • Concluded: Inspect condition of spark plugs
  • Concluded: Check throttle housing for contamination
  • Concluded: Check intake ports/valves for coking
  • Concluded: Inspect engine breather system
  • Concluded: Program DME with the latest software
1a Inspection of spark plugs condition:
  • Remove & inspect spark plugs for all cylinders
  • Replaced spark plugs for all cylinders
1b Inspection of throttle housing contamination:
  • Removed & inspected throttle housing for contamination
  • Cleaned & refined throttle housing
1c Inspection for intake ports/valves for coking
  • Remove/refit intake manifold with new gaskets
  • Carried out inspection of intake ports & valves
  • Carried out a cleaning procedure for all intake valves and intake ports
  • Carried out the cleaning of the intake manifold
  • Replaced inlet manifold pressure sensor
1d Inspection of engine breather system:
  • Removed engine rocker cover & inspected breather
  • Replaced engine rocker cover with revised breather system
  • Replaced breather system vent house
  • Carried out deleting of fault memories
  • Carried out resetting of engine adaptations service function
Parts:
  • Spark plugs
  • 138 House throttle valve cleaner
  • Throttle gasket
  • Gasket ring
  • Intake valve cleaning granulate
  • Intake valve cleaning neutraliser
  • Intake manifold profile-gasket
  • Inlet manifold pressure sensor
  • Expanding rivet
  • Unter tray spring clip
  • Table tie
  • Cylinder head cover with crankcase ventilation
  • Rocker cover gasket set
  • Vent hose
  • Petrol system additive
Advisories:
  • 1 Faults stored with mixture adaptation - require to conduct mixture control test module - DONE
  • 1a Inspect condition of spark plugs: Aftermarket & incorrect type of spark plugs installed - require replacement with genuine spark plugs - DONE

  • 1b Inspection of throttle housing for contaminations:
  • Throttle housing very dirty & contaminated - requires cleaning - DONE

  • 1c Inspection for intake ports/valves for coking:
  • Require inspection of intake ports/valves for coking & carbon build-up. Will require intake manifold removed - DONE
  • Found cylinder head intake ports & valves have excessive coking & carbon build-up. Require cleaning procedure - DONE
  • After intake manifold removal, found the following issues:
  • Excessive amounts of engine oil within intake manifold - Intake manifold requires cleaning - DONE
  • The intake system has excessive engine oil build-up. Require to inspect for defective engine breather - DONE
  • The intake manifold pressure sensor saturated with oil & carbon - Recommend replacement - DONE

  • 1d Inspection of engine breather system:
  • Early version engine rocker cover installed & breather unit defective - Requires new rocker cover with revised breather - DONE

  • 1e Program vehicle with latest software
  • Engine control unit requires programming with latest software - To be rebooked
  • The vehicle still on factory software - Recommend complete vehicle programming with the latest software
Additional report:
  • Very early version engine timing chain tensioner installed, requires revised timing chain tensioner - To be rebooked
  • The engine takes too long to reach/maintain operating temperature - suspect thermostat issue - To be rebooked
  • The cooling system filled with incorrect antifreeze - Requires flushing cooling system - To be rebooked

And as I said, the car didn't improve 1%. I am not able to pay anything more due to Corona Virus, my income highly impacted. If I can get your thinking around it maybe I can try to fix it myself (no never tried before, my only relationship with the car filling the gas tank). Sorry for the long post.

Thanks,
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Hello there,

I have a 2009 Mini Cooper S Auto, Petrol and on the 55000 miles. I bought the car very recently and the only problem when bought was the sunroof as it was not working properly (which is not a big deal!).

The next day, I noticed that the car has a very rough idle. It starts at approx. 2 minutes after I start the car and never goes off. Yellow engine light came off and I took it well respected and well known Mini specialist. Left my car to him and took 1 month and £1500 picked up the car and it is not even improved 1%. Due to Coronavirus, now I cannot reach him (and I am not sure should I reach him as he couldn't fix anything at all). Other than this, the car drives perfectly.

You can watch the rough idle video from here

And here is a list of what my mechanic did to the car

1 Investigate engine rough running & warning light on:
  • 2745 DME: Multiplicative mixture adaptation
  • 2786 DME: Additional mixture adaptation
  • Carried out a mixture control text module
  • Multiplicative mixture adaptation: partial load fuel-air mixture too lean
  • Additive mixture adaptation: Idle fuel-air mixture is too rich
  • Cylinder idle quality values outside of setpoint values
  • Require to check intake system for air leaks
  • Carried out smoke testing for intake system & inspect for leaks
  • No visual external leaks present
  • Engine breather unit allowing smoke to bypass
  • Concluded: Inspect condition of spark plugs
  • Concluded: Check throttle housing for contamination
  • Concluded: Check intake ports/valves for coking
  • Concluded: Inspect engine breather system
  • Concluded: Program DME with the latest software
1a Inspection of spark plugs condition:
  • Remove & inspect spark plugs for all cylinders
  • Replaced spark plugs for all cylinders
1b Inspection of throttle housing contamination:
  • Removed & inspected throttle housing for contamination
  • Cleaned & refined throttle housing
1c Inspection for intake ports/valves for coking
  • Remove/refit intake manifold with new gaskets
  • Carried out inspection of intake ports & valves
  • Carried out a cleaning procedure for all intake valves and intake ports
  • Carried out the cleaning of the intake manifold
  • Replaced inlet manifold pressure sensor
1d Inspection of engine breather system:
  • Removed engine rocker cover & inspected breather
  • Replaced engine rocker cover with revised breather system
  • Replaced breather system vent house
  • Carried out deleting of fault memories
  • Carried out resetting of engine adaptations service function
Parts:
  • Spark plugs
  • 138 House throttle valve cleaner
  • Throttle gasket
  • Gasket ring
  • Intake valve cleaning granulate
  • Intake valve cleaning neutraliser
  • Intake manifold profile-gasket
  • Inlet manifold pressure sensor
  • Expanding rivet
  • Unter tray spring clip
  • Table tie
  • Cylinder head cover with crankcase ventilation
  • Rocker cover gasket set
  • Vent hose
  • Petrol system additive
Advisories:
  • 1 Faults stored with mixture adaptation - require to conduct mixture control test module - DONE
  • 1a Inspect condition of spark plugs: Aftermarket & incorrect type of spark plugs installed - require replacement with genuine spark plugs - DONE

  • 1b Inspection of throttle housing for contaminations:
  • Throttle housing very dirty & contaminated - requires cleaning - DONE

  • 1c Inspection for intake ports/valves for coking:
  • Require inspection of intake ports/valves for coking & carbon build-up. Will require intake manifold removed - DONE
  • Found cylinder head intake ports & valves have excessive coking & carbon build-up. Require cleaning procedure - DONE
  • After intake manifold removal, found the following issues:
  • Excessive amounts of engine oil within intake manifold - Intake manifold requires cleaning - DONE
  • The intake system has excessive engine oil build-up. Require to inspect for defective engine breather - DONE
  • The intake manifold pressure sensor saturated with oil & carbon - Recommend replacement - DONE

  • 1d Inspection of engine breather system:
  • Early version engine rocker cover installed & breather unit defective - Requires new rocker cover with revised breather - DONE

  • 1e Program vehicle with latest software
  • Engine control unit requires programming with latest software - To be rebooked
  • The vehicle still on factory software - Recommend complete vehicle programming with the latest software
Additional report:
  • Very early version engine timing chain tensioner installed, requires revised timing chain tensioner - To be rebooked
  • The engine takes too long to reach/maintain operating temperature - suspect thermostat issue - To be rebooked
  • The cooling system filled with incorrect antifreeze - Requires flushing cooling system - To be rebooked
And as I said, the car didn't improve 1%. I am not able to pay anything more due to Corona Virus, my income highly impacted. If I can get your thinking around it maybe I can try to fix it myself (no never tried before, my only relationship with the car filling the gas tank). Sorry for the long post.

Thanks,
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