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Which bumpers do you prefer?

  • 2001-2004

    Votes: 26 57.8%
  • 2005

    Votes: 19 42.2%

Which bumpers do you like better?

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Which front/rear do you like better?

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Absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt, the '01 to '04 version.

The controversy begins here, because:

1. The older ones really do remind you of the look of the classic mini; the new ones don't. The new rear one doesn't look like anything, but the new front one seems to take styling cues from many current BMW's! (look at the front of the current 5 series, if in doubt). It rarely is obvious that the genius who was responsible for the style of the New MINI is no longer at BMW, but Chris Bangle is.

2. The new chrome strips low down on the back don't break up the back of the car in the same way and give it a "saggy bottomed" look.

3. The old chrome rear bumper (and the old front bumper, to a lesser extent) actually helped to save the bumper paint from damage. The new ones don't.


The plus side of the new front bumper is that it looks much better where, in some US States, no front number plate seems to be needed.

I won't be replacing my '04 with a current one and will wait to see if they do any better in '07. If I had to replace it (write off / theft - God forbid) I would want to on specify the current One D bumpers on a new Cooper and see how the factory copes with that order!

Why were One D's saved I wonder? At least the One D and Cooper S looks as good as they ever did!

Please don't think it's sour grapes, because I much prefer the new rear lights, the optional Xenons and the new radiator surround (if not the reduction in the number if slats). AND I saw the new bumpers on the Convertable before I ordered my Cooper and I didn't like them then!

Interestingly, my dealer told me he sold his allocation of pre face list MINI production slotsvery quickly just after the convertable was released!

Tigger.

PS Not entirely certain that the above photos are fair; the photograph of the face lifted Cooper is so very much more skillfully taken! Huge respect to the photographer.
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I prefer the original bumpers, the chrome strips are more retro and fun, reminding you of the classic Mini's chrome bumper bars. I don't mind the front too much as the deeper spoiler looks more sporty but I dislike the rear - it looks less beefy somehow without the slab of chrome, more feminine even, and the central fog light reminds me of a Peugeot 206 (not good!).

I do prefer the smoother, less fussy '05 grille, I have no idea why they put all that detail on it in the first place as the rest of the MINI is so smooth and slick, which is why my 04 is wearing one as of yesterday - so, I have the best of both worlds :D
MaxxUK said:
I do prefer the smoother, less fussy '05 grille, I have no idea why they put all that detail on it in the first place as the rest of the MINI is so smooth and slick, which is why my 04 is wearing one as of yesterday - so, I have the best of both worlds :D
Where did you manage to source the grill? Were you able to swop the bottom section as well as the top section? Was it expensive? It would certainly be a lot easier to clean and polish and the detail in the old one served no purpose that I could see.

Tigger
BMW were quite happy to install one for me when I had my spotlamps put on yesterday. Of course despite me explaining that I wanted the 05 model year chrome grille (and even gave them pictures showing the difference!!!) they STILL ordered the older style grile by mistake, meaning they had my car for an extra day while they got the right one :rolleyes: the bits cost about £70 for both sections so if you're good at DIY a reasonably priced mod. It's suprising how effective it is, the lack of detail on the surround makes the front of the car look more shiny! :)
MaxxUK said:
BMW were quite happy to install one for me when I had my spotlamps put on yesterday. Of course despite me explaining that I wanted the 05 model year chrome grille (and even gave them pictures showing the difference!!!) they STILL ordered the older style grile by mistake, meaning they had my car for an extra day while they got the right one :rolleyes: the bits cost about £70 for both sections so if you're good at DIY a reasonably priced mod. It's suprising how effective it is, the lack of detail on the surround makes the front of the car look more shiny! :)
Thanks for that, I'll add it to my list of changes I would like to make.

Tigger.
The old bumpers have taken the lead 10 points to 9 !

Tigger.
I like the "retro" look of the pre-2004 bumpers. However, I always felt that there were too many different elements on it, and that they all made the front end look a bit cluttered.
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I feel that the new 2005 bumper is much cleaner and harmonious looking, giving the MINI a better integrated look! So, my vote goes to the 2005 bumper!!! :cool:
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By the looks of it people will vote for what they own. Personally I waited for the face-lifted model as I always felt the use of the chrome on the original was a bit ott especially at the back, the new bumpers make the front end of the car look deeper and closer to the ground and the chrome rings on the fogs give a more cohesive and integrated look to the brightwork on the front end. The new lights front and rear are also a big improvement being both clearer and less fussy, overall a nice update sensative to the original design.
dantay999 said:
the new bumpers make the front end of the car look deeper and closer to the ground.
Unfortunately the direct result of making the car "look deeper and closer to the ground" (as there is no way of visually reducing the height of the roof) is that the car now looks a little more tall and narrow and a bit more awkward IMO.

Tigger.
older style for me too, mainly due to the link to the classic, but the new ones are growing on me:)
LOL! Tigger you are funny! Well i'm glad your pleased with yours and i'm pleased to have the facelift and all the enhancements the 05 model received (think the 3 piece dash looks less cluttered too) although maybe this makes the dash look too wide? lol
dantay999

dantay999 said:
LOL! Tigger you are funny! Well i'm glad your pleased with yours and i'm pleased to have the facelift and all the enhancements the 05 model recieved (think the 3 piece dash looks less cluttered too) although maybe this makes the dash look too wide? lol
Well, I'm please you like yours like I like mine (there's no accounting for taste after all ! :p )

Your right, the reduction of joints in the dash is a great improvement and goes a little way to making up for the fact that the clock is in the wrong place :p :p :D

Your turn....

Tigger.
LOL! Your quick on the draw! Have to say the position of the clock is not an issue.....I do however prefer the 'pool lighting' in its place....gives a nice orange glow to your hand at night as you turn up or change tracks on the stereo....the door handle lights and puddle lights are also a nice touch....well for us 05 model owners....your turn ;)
I think I still prefer the old bumpers - the rear definitely is weaker now.........
dentay999

dantay999 said:
LOL! Your quick on the draw! Have to say the position of the clock is not an issue.....I do however prefer the 'pool lighting' in its place....gives a nice orange glow to your hand at night as you turn up or change tracks on the stereo....the door handle lights and puddle lights are also a nice touch....well for us 05 model owners....your turn ;)
As a matter of interest, having revised the door pulls to be "arm rests" (what were they thinking of - you only need arm rest if the car is no fun to drive and slouching is the only way of coping with it!) is it either:

1. A little bit easier to retrieve anything from the door pockets?

OR

2 A complete lobster pot into which anything that enters will never, ever, escape again?

Oh, and what is the purpose of the new grab handle above the passenger seat? I've got one of those in the roof lining above either front seat in my Company V70 and I curse them each time I bang my head on them, but have yet to find out what they are actually for. That car doesn't go fast enough to need the roof holding down!

Tigger.

(Your turn..)
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Well I dont think you answered tho pool light/clock issue....side stepped it with the old arm rest issue.....again I prefer the new arm rests as the now perform their function...the grab handles....who can say....but all cars i've ever owned have had them....the new door trims more tidy and the rear most screw is covered. Imho its a gentle update....you cant blame them....they listened to what people wanted with regards an interior refresh and did the majority of things to keep it fresh until 06/07.....we could go on forever but we both love our mini's and thats the main thing.
Oh dear, it looks like we are going to have to start agreeing here :rolleyes: It's great that we both like the MINIs that we have.

Having said that, those puddle lights are great; I had them in a series of Citroen XM's estates I used to have and they are great! Nothing new under the sun (as they say), so why weren't they fitted from the start?

Still prefer the Midland Gears 'box though :p

Tigger.
Getrag is a different kind of box and sure is notchy.....my fathers M5 was a bit like that but a lot heavier on the clutch! I prefer the action of the getrag but understand why people prefer the old box. Some seem to have had more than their fair share of probs with it although I do remember issues with the midlands box....I appear to be lucky and have a good one....in fact the whole car seems to be fault free....maybe thats why i'm sticking up for it! :D
i like the 05 bumpers without the chrome line kit looks a lot better
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